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  • The Infamous
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    Floyd as opposed to Kostya

    How would you guys rate Tszyu as opposed to Mayweather, in terms of skill, athleticism, and power. Who would you consider the more proven, and the better fighter in there primes. ( Floyd being in his prime atm)

    EDIT- And for you Brits who have seen Hatton probably many more times then I have. How would you rate Hatton's performance against Tszyu in terms of his style, and how he fought his other fights. Did he change his style for this fight or is that his normal style?
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    Originally posted by The Infamous
    How would you guys rate Tszyu as opposed to Mayweather, in terms of skill, athleticism, and power. Who would you consider the more proven, and the better fighter in there primes. ( Floyd being in his prime atm)

    EDIT- And for you Brits who have seen Hatton probably many more times then I have. How would you rate Hatton's performance against Tszyu in terms of his style, and how he fought his other fights. Did he change his style for this fight or is that his normal style?

    Well we can't really answer the PBF question because we are yet to really see PBF be put to the full test in this division, and in even in the divisions before, he DIDN'T CLEAN OUT the division.....

    Whereas Kostya stayed in the one division, and KNOCKED OUT the other title holders to become the UNDISPUTED KING.......and in the process fought no bums and in total about 10 or 12 world champions, multiple world champions, future world champions, world title challengers, and very highly regarded contenders.....

    so practically, to date, PBF is nowhere near the legacy of Kostya...........but I hope that PBF does what Kostya does, although I doubt it......as he has proven too much lately that he takes easy fights and then every now and then fights a top opponent.....

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      #3
      Originally posted by The Infamous
      How would you guys rate Tszyu as opposed to Mayweather, in terms of skill, athleticism, and power. Who would you consider the more proven, and the better fighter in there primes. ( Floyd being in his prime atm)

      EDIT- And for you Brits who have seen Hatton probably many more times then I have. How would you rate Hatton's performance against Tszyu in terms of his style, and how he fought his other fights. Did he change his style for this fight or is that his normal style?
      In terms of skill Tszyu and Mayweather are about the same, both have brilliant skill and ability, they both have a great range of shots, great balance, awareness, timing, footwork, etc, etc. Mayweather just trains for speed and Tszyu trains for power. I think Tszyu beat Mayweather now, i think Tszyu is close to his prime and the Hatton loss was a styles loss as oppose being too old.

      Hatton is normally more entertaining, but if he fought like that against Tsyzu he'd have been KO'd. Hatton used a lot of strength on the inside, he doesnt normally lean on people that much but he had to adapt against Tszyu because he's well known for being a bully in the ring. Hatton's has always set a amazing pace in fights, he's very heavy handed so after the 1st round all of his opponents go on the defensive, Tszyu was the first person who wasnt just looking to survive.

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      • theclawoftheTiger
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        If my life depended on it, I'd pick Zoo over PBF ..
        As far as I'm concerned, PBF is completely unproven at 140 because Gatti literally acted as a punchbag, whereas Zoo is more proven at 140 than anybody - ever!

        Ricky clearly didnt look as good as he usually does against Zoo, he was much more nervous than ever and looked more sloppy than usual .. usually Ricky is as cool as a cucumber and a cold, calculated killer with one of the sweetest left hooks (the right hand/right hook either used to set up or just waiting if needed), Ricky can throw four or five left hands in a row before his opponent has a chance to really react (the right hand/right hook either used to set up or just waiting if needed).. when he throws the right or left uppercut he does so without any expression on his face and his body not tense at all, its deadly and the uppercut usually leaves his opponent stunned .. but Ricky's trademark is body punching which he didnt actually use against Zoo, he times those body shots well and gets real power them, he goes to the body alot and is an excellent body puncher .. he's a bundle of energy who comes forward or bounces forward making himself difficult to hit the way he manouvers himself twisting at the hips either side looking for openings ..
        Last edited by theclawoftheTiger; 10-29-2005, 03:15 AM.

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        • The Infamous
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          The PBF - Hatton fight is very interesting because even though Hatton fought very sloppy, and did alot of holding and leaning, he showed technical brilliance. He would feint right and throw a unique jab/hook which would land many times flush on Kostya. He is an interesting fighter it seemed like he just walked through Kostya's punches.

          Kostya even loaded up a couple times, and Hatton took it and walked right through it. I think Hatton's a special fighter and I believe he will beat Hatton IF (thats a big IF) they ever fight.

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            barring the **** tszyu had to put up with in ricky's back yard, i think he had an off night vs hatton. even though he, in my opinion, seemed to be at least a bit off, hatton is a good fighter and that showed that night.

            tszyu is already a legend. i don't think most people are willing to say that about mayweather. at least not yet anyways.

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              Lately I've been watching many Floyd fights and he has definetly changed his style. He dances for about two rounds, and then stays in the pocket and goes toe to toe and picks you apart with awesome counter shots. You can't do that with Hatton or he'll tag you, and he'll make Floyd run more then not, and just pot shot him from a distance.

              This fight is VERY tough to call but I'm still leaning towards Hatton. IMO most intriguing fight for REAL boxing fans.

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                If Floyd vs Hatton doesn't happen it will be disgraceful. It would be one of the biggest fights of this decade

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Beowulf
                  If Floyd vs Hatton doesn't happen it will be disgraceful. It would be one of the biggest fights of this decade
                  and also one of the biggest fights of the decade where both fighters are not all that proven.............meaning that both these boys are only 1 big fight into the cream on the division and already people are talking about fight of the decade.........

                  a fight of the decade should be something like holyfield - lewis....where both fighters dominated the same division for many years and then finally met.....

                  i like both fighters personally, but honestly, they need to prove more in the division and then fight each other..............personally, i think many many people will change their opinions on both of these fighters after their upcoming fights........both of them will win, but people will realise that they need to prove a lot more to gain top recognition......

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                    [[[and also one of the biggest fights of the decade where both fighters are not all that proven.............meaning that both these boys are only 1 big fight into the cream on the division and already people are talking about fight of the decade.........

                    a fight of the decade should be something like holyfield - lewis....where both fighters dominated the same division for many years and then finally met.....]]]
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                    Sorry there Mooch, but Holy/Lewis wasn't even fight of the year, probably not even fight of the month. Holy never dominated the division and both he and Lewis had just regained their belts when they had their series.

                    Hatton is the proven leader in the 140 division whereas Floyd is the proven current p4p leader. It looks like Floyd has some doubts over his abilities in the 140 division which is why he's been moving so slow. Hatton/Floyd will never come close to being the fight of the century, though it may seem like it to Brits who are Ricky crazy. Floyd is low gate high maintainence type of fighter and the US public wouldn't even recognize him on the street. It's only a few boxing fans who know about Floyd and a lotta lawyers, judges, and probation officers of course!

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