Best Ever In EVERY sport by the numbers...

[jimmy1569]

Absolutely. The first 5 competed against the very best in their sports to PROVE they belonged amongst the greatest ever. Vitaly lost against Lewis and will never fight his brother. Everybody else he's fought (nearly) would be comparable to a major league baseball player hitting home runs off a little leaguer and his fans saying he's the greatest home run hitter ever. It's ******.

If your theory of him fighting the little leaguers & let's assume that he has... wouldn't you say other greats fought similar little leaguers but substantially fewer than Vitali has.... Now we're comparing common/similar opponents here... Not who he hasn't fought.. what's there EXCUSE for NOT doing as well as Vitali has against them in terms of practically knocking almost each & every one of them out & winning practically every rd as well... unless you can claim they fared the same or better... your little post is purely speculative & even borders on fictional... you guys can't have it both ways... if you're comparing competition that HE HASN'T faced & saying he's Not WORTHY... then compare the competition he has faced that the other alltime greats faced with minimal success as opposed to Vitali's success... that IS THE true measure of a fighter's worth.. what he does to the same fighters you fought.. not WHAT he didn't do to fighters he never had the chance to get in the ring with.... The numbers were somehow amassed by him ONLY.... so there must be some type of truth in what i'm stating about him... let's put it to you this way...


I'M MUCH closer to the truth than you guys are & that you can take to the bank with interest... the proof in his resume since he hasn't had the opportunity to administer his patented beatdowns against other greats is to gauge the beatdowns he's administered to other fighters that Never received that kind of beatdown until they went Vitali... that's keeping it real.... all that other stuff is pure boll****... you guys all know he;d fare well against anybody & even list him as a top 10 H2H nightmare for any of the greats but refuse to acknowledge how great he really is... you're all phonies with your boxing logic & make no logical sense as to exclude him from being ranked at the top or very close to it.

[SirTomJones]

pele is not the best footbll player

[jimmy1569]

non of that matters

wilder has better numbers, valero has better numbers

and numbers is all that matters

I just proved to you they don't when taking EVERY aspect of the game into account & you're still backtalking.. if we performed a BER NUMBERS crunch... you'd see the discrepancy.. both VALERO even with his immaculate record & Dontays.. still don't come close when taking rds won into effect... punch discrepancy.. how much they hit there opponent as opposed to them getting hit.. all of that would be in Vitali's favor.. so they have the slightly better winning % & Ko%... the fact that Vitali had the same exact records as both at the same exact time in his career covers that little ****e in there numbers. Wilder has been in the lil leagues & VALERO was just plain little feasting on small dudes.

[jimmy1569]

AMEN.

If I go and knock out 100 5 year old girls that would make me greater than vitali if going by jimmy1569 logic simply because my numbers would be better than vitali's.

You're a moron. Vitali's faced the same exact opposition other greats have when you factor in 80 to 90% of there work.. so they have a few more recognizable names on there resume.. does that exclude all of the tomatoe cans & journeymen they fought who were no better than Vitali's opponents... these are all lies... LOOK at Foremans resume... littered with bums.. so was Louis.... even ALI FACED nonamers for the majority of his carreer.. what about Holmes.. all or most were hapless victims of the jab.. it's your logic that is flawed.

[bojangles1987]

Tiger hating time!

He's actually comparable to Vitali here. He put up a ton of major wins in what is considered a weak era of golf. Nicklaus is actually still generally considered the greatest golfer ever, because he still has more wins in majors than Tiger, and he beat out far better golfers to do it, just like the greatest heavyweights have better wins against better competition compared to Vitali.

So Vitali and Tiger have that in common.

[DiegoFuego]

What do you mean by best numbers in boxing? That just sounds too funny, so I have to see it explained. Pouring a drink right now.

[studentofthegam]

It's different for hockey and soccer.

Truth is: Vitali's skin is the wrong color for a lot of people.

In the sport of boxing, most Americans can only have high regard for non-white fighters, especially black fighters.

Nope. I didnt like Lenox either. He's good and black.

[jtcs1981]

First, MJ is consider the greatest basketball player. But Kareem and Malone scored more than him. Russell won more championships than him.

Babe is consider the best. But Aaron is the Home Run King and RBI (Bonds numbers are higher but the steroids dont help his case). Pete Rose is the leader in hits. And Joe D have 9 championships, two more than Ruth.

Nicklaus numbers still better than Woods.

Federer might have more grand slams than Sampras and there is still a debate of who is the greatest between them.

Greatness in each sports are not only defined by numbers. They are defined by perception. Jordan is considered the greatest because he played against tough competition (more than 20 hall of fame in his era). And also what he did to the sport. Same goes for Ruth. He defined baseball. Pujols might end with better numbers all around and still Babe is consider Mr Baseball.

Fair or not, Vitali is competing in a sport that was already defined by the greats of Sugar Ray Robinson and Ali. No matter how good or great he is, he will always take a seat to the people who change the sport and made a significance contribution to it.

[the niggest]

You're a moron. Vitali's faced the same exact opposition other greats have when you factor in 80 to 90% of there work.. so they have a few more recognizable names on there resume.. does that exclude all of the tomatoe cans & journeymen they fought who were no better than Vitali's opponents... these are all lies... LOOK at Foremans resume... littered with bums.. so was Louis.... even ALI FACED nonamers for the majority of his carreer.. what about Holmes.. all or most were hapless victims of the jab.. it's your logic that is flawed.

ali faced far better competition than vitali

liston
patterson
frazier
foreman
norton

those were all... all time greats. vitalis best wins is against guys like adamek and sam peter.

if everyone disagrees with you(which is the case), what do you think is more likely, that us the huge majority is right or you the lone crazyman somehow knows better than everyone else combined.

[the niggest]

First, MJ is consider the greatest basketball player. But Kareem and Malone scored more than him. Russell won more championships than him.

Babe is consider the best. But Aaron is the Home Run King and RBI (Bonds numbers are higher but the steroids dont help his case). Pete Rose is the leader in hits. And Joe D have 9 championships, two more than Ruth.

Nicklaus numbers still better than Woods.

Federer might have more grand slams than Sampras and there is still a debate of who is the greatest between them.

Word.

Ts should have looked up the facts before making this thread. now he looks like a ******ed liar(which is true).