Lee vs. Martinez

[Larry the boss]

Lee has 0 defense which =disaster against martinez

[UglyPug]

i just hope and pray the fight happens. . . lol all you guys can say is "he just isn't that good". . . Martinez hasn't fought an opponent who can fight from the outside like lee.. . .

[ny123]

Lee showed me that he isn't just a chinny brawler against Vera this time around. If he keeps this style and resists the urge to trade with Martinez I think his size and boxing ability will trouble Martinez more than most would expect.

[UglyPug]

0 defense? NAY. . . his defense is LEAKY, but it's there. . . he has better defense than williams, dzinz, and pavlik. . . not quite as good as barker's, but the STYLE LEE FIGHTS doesn't require him to have that good of defense. . . he KEEPS DISTANCE JUST LIKE SERGIO! Sergio has zero defense, but he has fast feet so he just scoots away from danger. . . the way he gets hit by jabs so easily, lee is licking his chops. . . and the DISTANCE lee will be able to fight sergio at. . . he hasn't fought a middleweight with the power of Lee either. . . Pavlik, doesn't have one punch power like Lee. . .

[UglyPug]

Lee showed me that he isn't just a chinny brawler against Vera this time around. If he keeps this style and resists the urge to trade with Martinez I think his size and boxing ability will trouble Martinez more than most would expect.

he wasn't really chinny in the first fight either, he never came close to kissing the canvas, and he was perfectly lucid; it was a horrible stoppage - it's just his stamina; he doesn't have the stamina to be ****ing it out like that. . . also he didn't clinch properly, nor move SIDEWAYS - he moved straight back. . .

he needs to keep fights at a distance. .. and since sergio doesn't like to fight on the inside either, it will be PERFECT for him. . . it will look like the pavlik/martinez fight from rounds 5-8 for the entire fight. . . lee keeping distance and timing sergio everytime he tries to jump in.

[UglyPug]

i can see why so many of you would think it's a mismatch, though. . . a lot of fans just can't "look closer", and see the finer details that make such big differences in stylistic matchups. . . you are too caught up in the hype (of martinez KO2 over williams), the flash of sergio's style, and the favorable style matchups for martinez up to this point. . . it's ok - 95% of fans think like that as well. . . .

[Larry the boss]

Andy lee sucks man..i know you have him in you avy,probablyis a cool cat..but he sucks,hasnt beat anyone close to martinez...he's a b maybe even c class fighter...the guy just isnt good

[Heeb]

I'd rather see Lee-Proksa. Though I doubt it ever happens.

[dan_cov]

i can see why so many of you would think it's a mismatch, though. . . a lot of fans just can't "look closer", and see the finer details that make such big differences in stylistic matchups. . . you are too caught up in the hype (of martinez KO2 over williams), the flash of sergio's style, and the favorable style matchups for martinez up to this point. . . it's ok - 95% of fans think like that as well. . . .

I see your point & how his height/reach may cause Sergio some problems but he's very stiff & predictable, he also panics. I think he's got a rather upright amateur style & he just seems robotic & almost like he has knee issues.

He should continue to improve under Manny Steward but I just can't see the guy being much of a threat to Sergio.

[ny123]

he wasn't really chinny in the first fight either, he never came close to kissing the canvas, and he was perfectly lucid; it was a horrible stoppage - it's just his stamina; he doesn't have the stamina to be ****ing it out like that. . . also he didn't clinch properly, nor move SIDEWAYS - he moved straight back. . .

he needs to keep fights at a distance. .. and since sergio doesn't like to fight on the inside either, it will be PERFECT for him. . . it will look like the pavlik/martinez fight from rounds 5-8 for the entire fight. . . lee keeping distance and timing sergio everytime he tries to jump in.

Im not saying he has no chin but he has been stunned the last couple times I saw him fight. He definitely cant trade punch for punch with Martinez imo. I agree with a lot of what you're saying but he doesn't hit harder than Pavlik. I like his chances to make this fight interesting because I think people are ignoring just how poor Martinez's defense really is. I also believe people are underestimating Lee's boxing ability. He has the ability but I think he overlooked opponents he felt he was superior to.