Watching Cotto/Mayorga...and why I'm certain Cotto will beat Margarito...

[Mr. Fantastic]

Okay, I'll give you Cotto vs. Foreman...but don't downgrade that win in the future then.

As for Pavlik and Castillo?

Castillo in the rematch with Corrales? He didn't even make weight. Off by 3.5 pounds and Corrales decided to go on with the show. You can't give Castillo full credit for that, can you?

Pavlik? In what fight did he come back after a "sustained beating" (without a tune-up) to beat a top fighter? Alfonso López?...Was he really that high in the rankings at the time? I'm seriously asking, not instigating by the way...

Why do you think I laughed? Foreman is a joke with no power (Reason why Cotto fought him besides the belt).

He still won after getting into a war. Specially the way he got knocked out, those are the ones that threaten your life.

Marco Antonio Rubio? You can see that as a yes or no type of thing.


Foreman after getting beat down by Ali and beating Lyle in one of my all time greatest fights.

Now what else are you fools going to come up with?

[jkaisen41]

Actually I have to say that Marga took 3 pretty good beatings... often it gets lost how Cotto beat him up as well... just look at the beginning of the fight around Marga's eyes... and then look in the end... was very swollen... Cotto hit him with some good stuff... Mosley must have hit him with about 30 straight right hands with full power and about the Pacquiao beating we don't even have to talk... his defense is his chin and IDK what is left from it... it wasn't just one punch KO it were beatings/hard shots over at least 8 rounds...

And like I said without broken nose after two rounds and loaded wraps I don't see him pushing Cotto as hard as he did before... but Cotto also has left a lot in the ring... so we will see

[Vasyl’s dad]

Cotto already tried to outbox and out speed Tony.

He got his **** pushed in.

I expect more of the same simply because Margarito just has his number. Nothing scientific about it. It happens in boxing.

[Lords]

Why do you think I laughed? Foreman is a joke with no power (Reason why Cotto fought him besides the belt).

He still won after getting into a war. Specially the way he got knocked out, those are the ones that threaten your life.

Marco Antonio Rubio? You can see that as a yes or no type of thing.


Foreman after getting beat down by Ali and beating Lyle in one of my all time greatest fights.

Now what else are you fools going to come up with?

Are you ******ed? I remember when before the Foreman fight with Cotto everybody was saying how Foreman was going to pound Cotto's head in and send him off into retirement. Sure now you can say Foreman sucks after he lost his last 2 fights but people weren't saying that before the fight. They were pushing for a Foreman/Miss pacman fight and Manny said Foreman was to tall but then goes and fights a tall Margicheato, so Cotto stepped up and fought him. Saying Cotto only fought him because he's a joke with no power is nonsense, Power isn't shlt in boxing.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Are you ******ed? I remember when before the Foreman fight with Cotto everybody was saying how Foreman was going to pound Cotto's head in and send him off into retirement. Sure now you can say Foreman sucks after he lost his last 2 fights but people weren't saying that before the fight. They were pushing for a Foreman/Miss pacman fight and Manny said Foreman was to tall but then goes and fights a tall Margicheato, so Cotto stepped up and fought him. Saying Cotto only fought him because he's a joke with no power is nonsense, Power isn't shlt in boxing.

Who's everyone moron? The best that was found is that SOME thought Foreman would beat Cotto.

Foreman sucks! Always has and always will.

[LaMigra]

Cotto already tried to outbox and out speed Tony.

He got his **** pushed in.

I expect more of the same simply because Margarito just has his number. Nothing scientific about it. It happens in boxing.

Um, I don't like to be the bearer of bad news but... Margarito got caught loading his wraps with plaster. Yeah man... sorry. He was even suspended for a year.

Having plaster wraps is way different than having someone' number in the ring. I think on dec. 3rd... you will see what I mean.

[freedom213]

I've asked this before.

Has a fighter ever taken a sustained beating (like Margo did vs Pac) and comeback without a tune-up to beat a top fighter?

Toss a year layoff in there.

I can't find a past example.

Can you TS?

Hmm cant think of anyone myself.

Not only does he have that going against him but also excluding his fight with Roberto Garcia, he has had a string of very physically brutal fights,

Lets start with the Clottey fight, he took a lot of punishment until Clottey broke his hands

In the Paul Williams fight Tony ate punches like sandwiches, over 240 sandwiches

Against Cotto he took an unbelievable amount of punishment 280 total punches. He even referenced not having enough time to recoup as a reason Mosley stopped him

Shane Mosley finished the job Cotto started cracking him for 178 total punches

Manny Pac oh my he blasted Antonio for 474 punches, power punches accounted for 411 of that

So i would venture to say Margarito's trainers should be very careful how much punishment they allow him to take in this fight, once an egg is scrambled there aint no unscrambling it.

[Agent Mulder]

if this were a movie, the good guy(cotto) gets revenge and beats the bad guy(margarito) in a dramatic fashion & retires in front of his hometown crowd with his wife and children beside him....


this ain't a movie.

[MOULINYAN KILLA]

You only say this cause Cotto is a Rican.

[TintaBoricua]

You only say this cause Cotto is a Rican.

Who...me? Nah, man. I give credit where credit is due.

I give Margarito credit for beating Cotto in the first fight just as I gave credit to Segura for beating Calderón, Arce for beating Vásquez, and Salido beating Juanma.

In fact, I even beared an embarrassing avatar with a naked Ricky Martin after Arce beat Vasquez because of a bet I lost (for all those that remember).

Don't group me up with troll posters and alternate accounts, 'cause that's not the case here.

I'm a big Cotto fan who's emphasizing Cotto's advantages going into this fight. I also understand that Margarito has his strengths, but in my opinion...he has more going for him than Margarito.

Of course, this is a forum so...feel free to disagree. I've already stated my case.