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I agree with every single one of your points. BTW I don't know the details of the contract but I expect the ring to be the biggest possible giving Cotto the advantage in the later rounds. I expect Cotto to fight mostly in the center of the ring behind his jab who is IMO his best punch and the second best Jab behind Wladimir.
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Margarito has NO POWER without plasters we seen that against Mosley Garcia and Pacquiao this is going to be a UD for CottoComment
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If Cotto would use less leg movement, learn to clinch, and as you stated stick behind the jab I think his chances of pulling it off are great. The problem is (and always has been) his stamina in the championship rounds.
I am just interested to see what BOTH fighters have left after the beatings they took from one another as well as from Pac (Margarito getting it worse).Comment
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I've asked this before.
Has a fighter ever taken a sustained beating (like Margo did vs Pac) and comeback without a tune-up to beat a top fighter?
Toss a year layoff in there.
I can't find a past example.
Can you TS?Comment
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Margicheato is a pressure fighter and not a boxer. Steward will prepare Cotto for this as we know because Steward knows that is cheato's game, to put pressure. Cotto will work the body and throw more left hooks. In the end Cotto will be the winner.Comment
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I personally lean towards Cotto because minus broken nose and loaded wraps (IMO) Cotto would have had a good chance of beating Maragarito in the first fight...I'm sitting here watching Cotto/Mayorga and seeing Cotto with snapping punches, a ramming left jab, and a sharp left hook. Did he take punches from Mayorga? Of course, he doesn't have the best defense in the world AND Mayorga is a fairly awkward fighter that gives a lot of people fits because of how unconventional he is with his attack patterns. Hell, judging from the first FOUR ROUNDS in Mosley/Mayorga, you would've thought that it was going to be a little rough between him and Mosley down the stretch. Mayorga isn't a downright horrible fighter, he's just not elite, but awkward enough to not allow you to go all-out on him. Hell, the only guy in the last ten years to dispatch Mayorga without ANY trouble was Oscar de la Hoya because even Tito took some punches in his TKO victory. So let's cut Cotto some slack...
I'm fairly certain you all guys know who I am by now and how I try to be respectful and keep things in perspective. I've been debating about Cotto/Margarito II for the last few days with people over here and casual fans (those that only tune in to watch PPV fights) see as Cotto going into a fight to take an utter beating at the hands of Antonio Margarito. And while I could see Margarito's pressure style giving Cotto fits, I can't bring myself to BELIEVE Margarito will win again.
You don't have to agree, but consider the following points:
1-) Ever since Cotto and Margarito fought, Cotto's record has been 4-1 (3KO's) while Margarito's has been 1-2 (0 KO's).
2-) Cotto has an underrated jab and a solid left hook, which will land on Margarito's affected eye.
3-) Their fight was fairly even. You can't look at that first fight and say Margarito was putting a beatdown on him since round 1. This wasn't Jones, Jr./Toney or B-Hop/Pavlik, Cotto was actually in the fight. He simply made mistakes that must be fixed, which are to stay from the ropes and clinch.
4-) Cotto is NOT Ricky Hatton and Margarito is not Pacquiao. In other words, he CAN take punishment and Margarito isn't knocking Cotto out like some people believe. Cotto is susceptible to punches (and he WILL get tagged) but Margarito needs time to knock you out. And to be honest, if you are going in there against the first man to beat you (by TKO) and the fight has a PR-Mexican rivalry background, and you are FIGHTING in your hometown, there is NO way Cotto will allow himself to go down again and give Margarito the TKO victory. If the going gets tough, all Cotto has to do is get on his bike and reach the bell and recover. Cotto's going to reach the final bell even if he is taking a beating, he won't quit again. That's why this is going to be intriguing should he begin to take a lot of punishment, Cotto won't quit even if his body is begging him for air and although this might sound like a downfall, consider the following point...
5-) They are fighting in Madison Square Garden, Cotto's adopted home. This means that Cotto can throw a seven punch combination, land only two punches, and people will be cheering even over that. Like it or not, that will influence judges. If there are ANY close rounds, you KNOW who they're going to give them to.
6-) In the worst case scenario, the politics of boxing will be in play. Even if Margarito does enough to WARRANT a victory in a rousing slugfest, the judges will give it to Cotto in order to set up a trilogy, which in the end, means more money for Bob.
The two questions regarding Margarito:
a-) After his battles with Cotto, Mosley, and Pacquiao, will Margarito's chin FINALLY show deterioration. Sooner or later, it dissolves, doesn't it? Considering his fighting style and the fact that he's been fighting since he was 15 years old and he's now 33, that's a lot of punishment to take over an 18 year career.
b-) After that nasty eye injury against Pacquiao, will Margarito's socket keep itself intact or will a cut open up allowing Cotto to take advantage of it?
Guys, agree, disagree, debate!
Also, I'm taking bets on this fight! 2:1 odds with Cotto...feel free to PM me!
On the other note Cotto wasn't the same fighter anymore and Margarito isn't skilled but he will forces you to bring the fighter... I think Cotto has a pretty good time for the first 4 rounds... but starting at the latest with the 6th round Cotto will have to be a fighter and IDK if Cotto has 7 rounds of fighter in him left - he can survive the rounds no doubt and will... but is he competive enough in the last 7 rounds is the question...
And this time Cotto has to get to the body of Margarito... in the first fight it was only head punches... and with that you won't hurt Margarito or stop him from coming... body punches hurt himComment
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I agree. His jab is really stiff and powerful. People overlook his jab a lot. Who the hell knocks down Clottey...with a JAB? And about the ring...I'm not sure. But if it's a big ring...Margarito's chances take a hit.
As I said before, I'm not touching the plaster subject because it would make me look like I'm saying that Margarito won ONLY because of that. The fact is, we can speculate, but NOT without a shred of doubt. The writing's on the wall, but it hasn't been proven 100%. And in any case, I wouldn't say Margarito has absolutely no power. He was able to rock Pacquiao's head back a few times and even stunned him severely with a crippling body shot in round 6. Margarito also had a good rally where he connected three or four uppercuts to Manny's body in round 8. If Margarito didn't have power, he wouldn't have done that...and Cotto would be saying, "He has no power, I'm going to bumrush him..."
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaah. I wouldn't go so far as to say Margarito's featherfisted. His power is there, it's just that it's overlooked because a-) Mosley's punches were MUCH, MUCH more impressive and b-) Whenever Margarito connected, Pacquiao would come back with flashy combinations of his own
No, I really can't. Good observation and interesting way of looking at this situation.
Yes, body punches DO hurt him.
Margarito was stunned in the 1st round from a Mosley right hand to the body and in the fourth round from a left hook to the body by Manny Pacquiao.
It's not easy to catch Margarito downstairs but somebody should hack away there. Because if his chin is still at 100%, he's not moving even if you hit him with a missile.Comment
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Okay, I'll give you Cotto vs. Foreman...but don't downgrade that win in the future then.
As for Pavlik and Castillo?
Castillo in the rematch with Corrales? He didn't even make weight. Off by 3.5 pounds and Corrales decided to go on with the show. You can't give Castillo full credit for that, can you?
Pavlik? In what fight did he come back after a "sustained beating" (without a tune-up) to beat a top fighter? Alfonso López?...Was he really that high in the rankings at the time? I'm seriously asking, not instigating by the way...
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What warrior needs the biggest ring?
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