PRIME Oscar.....

[McFearless]

Well Tito knocking out some decent WW's, JMW's, who I assume you comparing to the fighters Mosley knocked out....Wouldn't make Tito a beast at MW now would he?

I don't recall calling Tito a MW beast, if I did, let me know...Even though his first MW win was by far more impressive than any WW win Mosley at prior the first Oscar fight.

Unless you calling Mosley a beast at LW...But, WTF does that have to do with the Oscar fight at WW?

Oscar WAS a beast at welter, gave tito all he could handle, yeah blah blah blah tito won on paper blah blah, but mosley handled oscar (dammit). i think that says a lot on a fighter going up to weight classes to fight one of the best fighters

[jrosales13]

He is right, Floyd didnt fight a prime Oscar he fought a part time fighter who was inactive, and semi retired.
and knowing all that, a case can be made that Oscar beat him, official cards show a single point SD.... and this is against a past his best version of DLH against a prime PBF...
That leads me to beleive that a peak DLH, has enough not only to get the win but make it clear

You can't be taken serious...Try watching the fight instead of looking at boxrec.

[McFearless]

You can't be taken serious...Try watching the fight instead of looking at boxrec.

LOL ok... now that dude was talking crazy... ill give you that one

[sammiza567]

floyd vs prime oscar 50/50. oscar was a beast and im a floyd fan. oscar murks everyone else including pac. tito murks everyone too besides floyd.

[jrosales13]

Oscar WAS a beast at welter, gave tito all he could handle, yeah blah blah blah tito won on paper blah blah, but mosley handled oscar (dammit). i think that says a lot on a fighter going up to weight classes to fight one of the best fighters

LOL @ the Tito talk. Trinidad was no beast at all, now what? Done? Cool. Because, if you really want to compare Tito and Mosley resume we can. But, I doubt you want to do that.

So lets get back to the subject, shall we? Mosley is a HOF'er no doubt. But, Mosley wasn't highly regarded prior to the first Oscar fight and that's my point. It was seen as Oscar cherry picking Mosley who hadn't look spectacular since he jumped from LW skipping JWW. Mosley was considered smaller. And, it was seen as a pretty big upset at that time when Mosley beat Oscar.

[Bombs]

Oscar was on ******* for some of the big fights he lost.

I truly believe a healthy and focused Oscar would have retired undefeated or maybe with 1 loss. His messed up training camps and lifestyle got in the way of his career.

[x3_bazooka_x3]

You can't be taken serious...Try watching the fight instead of looking at boxrec.

So let me get his right, ignore the official scorecards? is that what your telling me?
cus there is a scorecard official one on Floyds record thats questionable.

So lets just clarify, do we go by the official cards or do we make up the story ourselves?

[Mr. Fantastic]

Well Tito knocking out some decent WW's, JMW's, who I assume you comparing to the fighters Mosley knocked out....Wouldn't make Tito a beast at MW now would he?

I don't recall calling Tito a MW beast, if I did, let me know...Even though his first MW win was by far more impressive than any WW win Mosley at prior the first Oscar fight.

Unless you calling Mosley a beast at LW...But, WTF does that have to do with the Oscar fight at WW?

I'm not comparing. I'm just saying that the label "decent" was put on them. Both Tito and Mosley did knock out some "decent" competition.

Well I was just answering this......So what made Mosley a beast? Especially prior to the first fight? Is it because he KO'd a few above average LWs?

[daggum]

So let me get his right, ignore the official scorecards? is that what your telling me?
cus there is a scorecard official one on Floyds record thats questionable.

So lets just clarify, do we go by the official cards or do we make up the story ourselves?

its funner to make up your own story. that's what the judges do anyway so why can't we? it's not like they follow the rules of pro judging. they give the fight to the popular guy or the guy throwing more but not even landing. official judges have the least credibility of anyone because their decisions were based on corruption/incompetence. an official decision don't mean squat to me.

[jrosales13]

So let me get his right, ignore the official scorecards? is that what your telling me?
cus there is a scorecard official one on Floyds record thats questionable.

So lets just clarify, do we go by the official cards or do we make up the story ourselves?

Are you comparing the competitiveness of Floyd-Oscar to the first Floyd-Castillo fight? Really?



I scored the first fight for Castillo. But, it was close that could have gone either way. I have no problem with the decision. Because, there were a couple swing rounds. And, depending on you scored the swing rounds will make you score the fight for one fighter or the other. Floyd winning doesn't make it a robbery. And, if Castillo would have gotten the decision(again I had him winning) then it wouldn't have been a robbery either. Because, it was so damn close. Very close fight.

But, Floyd-Oscar was not close at all. Oscar won 3 rounds 4 if you're being totally generous to Oscar and giving him the benefit of every doubt. And, if Oscar would have gotten that decision then that would have been a robbery.

Yes when there are robberies you can ignore the ref/judges decision. Like Whitaker-Ramirez, Whitaker-Chavez, Martinez-Cintron, Santa Cruz-Casamayor, Kotelnik-Alexander etc etc...

But, I personally don't ignore the ref/judges decision when it's a close competitive fight like Floyd-Castillo, Floyd-Williams, Pac-Marquez etc etc.

Did you watch the fight? Which rounds did you give to Oscar?