yes he should move back down..theres nothing at 160
Should Martinez officially move down?
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He gave up 10 against Pavlik.you guys say sergio is 3rd best pound for pound, right? well riddle me this? WHAT DO POUND FOR POUND guys do?! they GO UP IN WEIGHT! Manny constantly gives up 15+ pounds after rehydration. . . Floyd gave up 15 pounds against Ortiz. . . WHY CAN'T SERGIO!?!?! PLEEASE somebody tell me why can't sergio?!
A hint; he moved up from 154 to 160.
Pac and Mayweather can give up 15+ lbs, but apparently not against sergio who weighs 165 = 15lbs more than they do. Why is this?
Yeah because Pirog is the proven #1 contender. He beat Jacobs after all.If Sergio doesn't want to challenge himself and give us fans the best matchups - he needs to fight PIROG or take his hoe-cake ass down to 154. . .Comment
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After looking at how small he looked the prospect of him fighting a big SMW like Bute at any weight seems like a joke.Comment
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He gave up 10 against Pavlik.
A hint; he moved up from 154 to 160.
Pac and Mayweather can give up 15+ lbs, but apparently not against sergio who weighs 165 = 15lbs more than they do. Why is this?
Yeah because Pirog is the proven #1 contender. He beat Jacobs after all.
I didn't ask why Manny or Floyd can't give up 15 pounds to fight Sergio, I asked why sergio can't give up 15 pounds (post-rehydration) to fight Andre Ward or Froch, or Bute? WHY NOT?Comment
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because fights with Pac and Floyd is 1000x bigger fights. And if it's the same weight disparity, then that would be a better choice.
So why can they give up 15+ lbs against everyone but Martinez? Are they ducking? Or is Martinez too good to give up size against?
The problem i have with your argument is that you seem to feel it's ok for sergio to go up, but not pac or floyd? Whats the difference?Comment
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He might as well move back down to 154. He's desperate for a payday, and exposure, which 154 will give him. Is his desperation a bad thing? No! The man is 36. He knows his time is limited vastly. However, if he's willing to drain himself to fight Pac, or Floyd at 150 then why not just compete at 154, and murk urrybody up in thurrrr? He's not going to make **** happen unless he makes noise against the known names, which 154 is constituted of.
Sadly, he's not a draw, nor is thurrr heavy demand for other top fighters to face him. Thus, 154 would be the right move for Martinez, as there are many names he can capitalize on thurrrr. Even Merchant stated my view last night, as he said, "all Martinez can do is keep making noise." Well there is plenty of noise to make at 154.
Martinez had Chavez Jr on his mind, as a way for him to trascend into the mainstream, and gain some exposure. However, Martinez is barely realizing that a clash with Jr is highly unlikely to happen, as Martinez has been ****ked for his title.Comment
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well i guess it's the same reasoning - there are much bigger fights for manny and floyd. . . guys who bring more to the table. . . Manny and Floyd have been figthting on the world class level for a decade, maravagina - 2 years.because fights with Pac and Floyd is 1000x bigger fights. And if it's the same weight disparity, then that would be a better choice.
So why can they give up 15+ lbs against everyone but Martinez? Are they ducking? Or is Martinez too good to give up size against?
The problem i have with your argument is that you seem to feel it's ok for sergio to go up, but not pac or floyd? Whats the difference?
Manny and Floyd are their own men - THEY BRING THE MONEY - Sergio does not. . . So therefore Sergio should PROVE HIS METTLE, and BECOME HIS OWN MAN and go up in weight and beat ass at higher weights. . . LOOK HOW MANY CLASSES Floyd and manny have blown through? Sergio didn't do **** at 147 except get SONNED by Margarito. . . At 154 he DREW Cintron, and at 160 he lost to Williams once and beat Williams once and beat Pavlik. .
POPPA TONY SAYS: Son, stop being a ***** and give the people what they want. . . Poppa tony says he didn't raise his son to be no BEGGAR. . .Comment
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Sergio needs to GO UP, JUST LIKE manny and floyd have done/are doing. . . POUND FOR POUND'ers DO NOT challenge DOWN, they CHALLENGE UP! Sergio has given up weight advantage ONE TIME in his EntIRE CAREER. . . ONE TIME!! LOL!! Manny and Floyd have been doing it forever. . . Marquez is the first time Manny will fight somebody WHO WEIGHS THE EXACT SAME as him in a hot minute. . .
POPPA TONY DID NOT RAISE A COWARD!! Any son of Tony should be a WARRIOR willing to go up in weight to make their own path. . . .Comment
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