How hard was this shot?

[oldgringo]

Probably the hardest overall punch landed that a guy has gotten up from. That punch would have flattened 95% of other boxers. Holmes could definitely take a big shot.

I cringe every time I see that clip.

[Parodius]

Great logic.

on the same note, Tyson was unable to knockout Buster Douglas.....who Evander Holyfield knocked out in the third round of their fight.

Does that mean his power is overrated? according to you, no.

Tyson was also unable to stop Ruddock the second time around, and also went the distance with James Smith.

Smith has knockout losses to Lionel Butler, Brian Nielson, Daniel Dancuta, Joe Bugner, and Razor himself.

Styles make fights.....and you have no clue what you are talking about.

James Tillis glass chin. Old Foremon knocked out Michael Moorer abetter chin then Tillis. Foremon hit harder then Shavers. Nuff said!

[Run]

James Tillis glass chin. Old Foremon knocked out Michael Moorer abetter chin then Tillis. Foremon hit harder then Shavers. Nuff said!

And you stated earlier that Tyson hit harder than Shavers.

Smith's chin was a good example of glass....and by your logic and admission that means Tyson's power is overrated because he failed to knock someone out who has according to you:

"A glass chin"



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[Parodius]

And you stated earlier that Tyson hit harder than Shavers.

Smith's chin was a good example of glass....and by your logic and admission that means Tyson's power is overrated because he failed to knock someone out who has according to you:

"A glass chin"

Smith was holding every second of the fight, he should've been DQ. Tillis beat Shavers big difference. Again the Lewis knockout punch of Rahman was the harder punch.

[Run]

Smith was holding every second of the fight, he should've been DQ.

Right and Tillis was trading shots openly with shavers?

Again, and this is getting very sad.

Douglas beat Tyson. Would you label Douglas' jaw as granite?

Again the Lewis knockout punch of Rahman was the harder punch.

That is completely irrelevant to this discussion. We are conversing about Shaver's power being overrated.



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[Parodius]

Right and Tillis was trading shots openly with shavers?

Again, and this is getting very sad.

Douglas beat Tyson. Would you label Douglas' jaw as granite?

Douglas had a good chin, Douglas don't have a glass chin, big difference. When he fought Holyfield he just wanted to collect his 20 mil & retire. Yes the glass chin Tillis did trade with Shavers.

[Parodius]

Right and Tillis was trading shots openly with shavers?

Again, and this is getting very sad.

Douglas beat Tyson. Would you label Douglas' jaw as granite?



That is completely irrelevant to this discussion. We are conversing about Shaver's power being overrated.

I consider Shavers one of the hardest HW punchers in history. The reason it's overrated because some people think he is the hardest hitter in history. This is overrated, period. You just don't get it, I have to repeat myself like 10 different times until you finally get it.

[Run]

I consider Shavers one of the hardest HW punchers in history. The reason it's overrated because some people think he is the hardest hitter in history. This is overrated, period. You just don't get it, I have to repeat myself like 10 different times until you finally get it.

First you claimed he was a "hard hitting heavyweight"

That is no find. You wont have to go a half block to find a heavyweight who hits hard....they are all around.

Now you add the "in history" part, basically affirming that you comprimised after you retracted your initial statement.

Good to see we are making progress.



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[velvet fog]

why dont you believe rahman when he says that sanders hit harder than anyone hes ever faced?

[Parodius]

First you claimed he was a "hard hitting heavyweight"

That is no find. You wont have to go a half block to find a heavyweight who hits hard....they are all around.

Now you add the "in history" part, basically affirming that you comprimised after you retracted your initial statement.

Good to see we are making progress.

I'm pretty sure most people get it. But if you are an idiot like RUNWITH**** then you will not get it. Once again you've looked like an idiot by me. You just don't learn.