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  • LeG00N
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    #21
    Originally posted by puga
    he was not mobile...he was a swamer neeeding to close his range in order to be effective....
    really?

    watch the first minute of this fight and never bring up the boxer puncher talking point ever again. It makes you look foolish

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    • dan_cov
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      #22
      Originally posted by puga
      what is that?.....

      That was an uber facepalm for your post lol
      Chavez Snr was a boxer-puncher!

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        #23
        Originally posted by MANIAC310
        really? watch the first minute of this fight and never bring up the boxer puncher talking point ever again. It makes you look foolish
        Originally posted by dancovboxer
        That was an uber facepalm for your post lol Chavez Snr was a boxer-puncher!
        Swarmers/in-fighterIn-fighters/swarmers (sometimes called "pressure fighters") attempt to stay close to an opponent, throwing intense flurries and combinations of hooks and uppercuts. A successful in-fighter often needs a good "chin" because swarming usually involves being hit with many jabs before they can maneuver inside where they are more effective. In-fighters operate best at close range because they are generally shorter and have less reach than their opponents and thus are more effective at a short distance where the longer arms of their opponents make punching awkward. However, several fighters tall for their division have been relatively adept at in-fighting as well as out-fighting. The essence of a swarmer is non-stop aggression. Many short in-fighters utilize their stature to their advantage, employing a bob-and-weave defense by bending at the waist to slip underneath or to the sides of incoming punches. Unlike blocking, causing an opponent to miss a punch disrupts his balance, permits forward movement past the opponent's extended arm and keeps the hands free to counter. A distinct advantage that in-fighters have is when throwing uppercuts where they can channel their entire bodyweight behind the punch; Mike Tyson was famous for throwing devastating uppercuts. Julio César Chávez was known for his hard "chin", punching power, body attack and the stalking of his opponents. Some in-fighters, like Mike Tyson, have been known for being notoriously hard to hit. The key to a swarmer is aggression, endurance, chin, and bobbing-and-weaving.

        Notable in-fighters include Laszlo Papp, Mike Tyson, Harry Greb,[23] Jack Dempsey,[24] Rocky Marciano,[25] Joe Frazier, Jake LaMotta, David Tua, Ricky Hatton and Julio César Chávez.

        and dancover, that face palm is for you...

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          #24
          lol @ you using Wikipedia insted of making your own call


          Boxer-puncher
          A boxer-puncher is a well-rounded boxer who is able to fight at close range with a combination of technique and power, often with the ability to knock opponents out with a combination and in some instances a single shot. Their movement and tactics are similar to that of an out-fighter (although they are generally not as mobile as an out-fighter[citation needed]), but instead of winning by decision, they tend to wear their opponents down using combinations and then move in to score the knockout. A boxer must be well rounded to be effective using this style.
          Notable punchers include Ian Green, Nonito Donaire, Sam Langford,[18] Henry Armstrong,[19] Joe Louis,[20] Sugar Ray Robinson,[21] Tony Zale, Archie Moore, Carlos Monzón[22] Alexis Argüello, Erik Morales, Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Klitschko, Julio César Chávez, Oscar de la Hoya, Terry Norris, Marco Antonio Barrera, Manny Pacquiao, Thomas Hearns and Victor Ortiz.




          now acknowledge the video I posted or Gtfo

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            #25
            Boxrec and Wiki warriors at it again.

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              #26
              Sergio isn't overrated at all, and only an idiot would say such a thing.

              People don't realize how difficult it is to go out and consistently put on dominate performances.

              IMO I actually think Barker looked solid and is far from the bum most tried to make him out to be. Is he great.....no.....but definately a solid gatekeeper type fighter.

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                #27
                Originally posted by MANIAC310
                lol @ you using Wikipedia insted of making your own call


                Boxer-puncher
                A boxer-puncher is a well-rounded boxer who is able to fight at close range with a combination of technique and power, often with the ability to knock opponents out with a combination and in some instances a single shot. Their movement and tactics are similar to that of an out-fighter (although they are generally not as mobile as an out-fighter[citation needed]), but instead of winning by decision, they tend to wear their opponents down using combinations and then move in to score the knockout. A boxer must be well rounded to be effective using this style.
                Notable punchers include Ian Green, Nonito Donaire, Sam Langford,[18] Henry Armstrong,[19] Joe Louis,[20] Sugar Ray Robinson,[21] Tony Zale, Archie Moore, Carlos Monzón[22] Alexis Argüello, Erik Morales, Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Klitschko, Julio César Chávez, Oscar de la Hoya, Terry Norris, Marco Antonio Barrera, Manny Pacquiao, Thomas Hearns and Victor Ortiz.




                now acknowledge the video I posted or Gtfo
                wtf , i did not use it as my own..i just thik it is basic common knowledge that a person who needs to close the range in order to be effective (like chave sr ) is not a boxer puncher.....if chavez sr was known for his "mexican fighting style"...and mexican fighing style my frined is not being a boxer puncher.....

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by puga
                  wtf , i did not use it as my own..i just thik it is basic common knowledge that a person who needs to close the range in order to be effective (like chave sr ) is not a boxer puncher.....if chavez sr was known for his "mexican fighting style"...and mexican fighing style my frined is not being a boxer puncher.....
                  I didn't imply you plagiarized it. I was referring to you using Wikipedia instead of making your own call.
                  The Mexican fighting style pretty much is being a boxer puncher..

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                  • Steak
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                    #29
                    Chavez was multidimensional. Sometimes he pressured, other times he counter punched and picked his shots, ie agaisnt Ramirez and Lockridge.

                    his style was defined not around volume, but about effectively and efficiently cutting off the ring, picking off shots and landing flush and accurate combinations to the head and body.

                    you can call that whatever term you want to.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Steak
                      Chavez was multidimensional. Sometimes he pressured, other times he counter punched and picked his shots, ie agaisnt Ramirez and Lockridge.

                      his style was defined not around volume, but about effectively and efficiently cutting off the ring, picking off shots and landing flush and accurate combinations to the head and body.

                      you can call that whatever term you want to.
                      sure...but he defiantly didn't spend the majority of his career swarming.
                      like Puga implies

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