Hopkins : ''The HW division is in coma. Cruiserweight is the cure.''

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  • JAB5239
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    #31
    Originally posted by Fish_Scotland
    SHOCK

    Yet another American moaning about the Heavyweight d. If the Klits were yanks it would be a different story all together.
    No not really. Wlad would still be boring. Vitaly would still be fighting mostly bums and the division would still be lame. Nationality doesn't change the facts.

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    • Tiozzo
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      #32
      Originally posted by DOMINATION
      Adamek beat the shit out of Cunningham, floored him 3 times.

      Here's the 3 knockdowns:

      Adamek was the best CW in the world WHEN HE WAS STILL FIGHTING AS A CW

      since he has moved up, it's Cunningham

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        #33
        Originally posted by davros2010
        A super heavyweight division would be utterly awful, all you would have is Wlad, Vitali, and a few other guys in it. The real problem with the HW division is that the smaller guys are not skilled enough and are not in good enough shape to beat the Klitsckho brothers. Smaller HW like Holyfield, Tyson, Frazier etc would all do fine today there is no need to change the weight limits. I would like to see the contenders fight each other more, we really dont know who the 3rd best heavyweight is in the world as none of them want to fight each other.

        I would also like to see the cruiserweight division's name changed back to the Junior heavyweight division.
        lightheavy... then junior heavy ? naww, cruiser is a perfect term

        Originally posted by rajul
        wow he actualyl completed ignored the james toney question
        I noticed that too

        I wouldn't have let him off the hook like those guys did But Toney has to beat Lebedev before he has anything to bring to the table for Hopkins

        Originally posted by JAB5239
        Since when do paper titles matter? If you're not the undisputed champion you're just another contender. And as long as Vitaly is around Wlad will never be undisputed. As good as Wlad is he'll never see 25 defenses as UNDISPUTED champion. Bank on it my friend.
        Let's be fair : Wlad is lineal champion since he defeated Chagaev. He is the true undisputed champion. Forget his brother, forget the 4 titles, this is an exceptional situation. We can't ask them to fight each other or act like they should be accountable for not fighting each ohter. As far as I'm concerned, Vitali is the one who has the paper title. Lewis didn't have all 4 belts either, he still was undisputed.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Tiozzo
          Let's be fair : Wlad is lineal champion since he defeated Chagaev. He is the true undisputed champion. Forget his brother, forget the 4 titles, this is an exceptional situation. We can't ask them to fight each other or act like they should be accountable for not fighting each ohter. As far as I'm concerned, Vitali is the one who has the paper title. Lewis didn't have all 4 belts either, he still was undisputed.

          That is fair. And truth be told Wlad has been the best heavyweight even longer than that. But he would still have 23 defenses to go if anyone thinks he will retire with most defenses. If it happens than good for him. But it just seems unrealistic to me considering he's already 35 years old.

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            #35
            Originally posted by JAB5239

            Or maybe you should make that suggestion to most of either Klitschko's opponents. The one guy who was in shape (Haye) refused to throw punches. This isn't about color, but the lack of talent. And that goes for the black and white American heavyweights as well as the eastern Europeans. The division is at an all time low in terms of talent.
            Indeed, it's about nationality. It's funny to see you whining in every Klitschko thread, tough times ahead for you and other morons like you since the HW division is going to be out of america's hands for a loooong time.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Forza
              When the K bros retire and some black bum gets a paper belt, the HW division will magically be "stacked" according to most Americans over night.

              Sorry, black boys aren't tough enough to hang with top heavys now. Go lose some weight or try a different easier sport.
              Reported for racism.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Pirao
                Indeed, it's about nationality.
                Nobody cares what 3rd world ****hole you're from.
                Last edited by Poet682006; 09-30-2011, 07:01 PM.

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                  #38
                  Lennox destroyed all the beloved Americans before he retired:

                  1. Tyson
                  2. Holyfeild
                  3. Bowe(Olympics)

                  And then he lacerated the best easterneuro just for good measure. Lennox ruined the Heavyweight division and retired as true lineal, undisputed champ.

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                  • Forza
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                    #39
                    The king of boxing is white, and that hurts Bhop. Everyday he has to wake up and realize he's only a little old LHW and either bro would smash him to bits in the ring or on the streets.

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