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  • #41
    OK people anything is possible and maybe Floyd and Pac are both juicing but that doesn't take away from the fact that eventhough Floyd can be juicing on his long breaks that he is still willing to subject himself to testing and Pac isn't. If it doesn't matter anyway and you can beat it according to Conte, then why didn't and won't Pac take it without knowing when it was being administered? And why so many excuses? I mean, I am not even trying to get on that vibe because it is ridiculous to continue to go down this road if the fight is not agreed upon and signed. Obviously if Floyd was/is willing to subject himself to random testing then why didn't Pac? If neither can get caught then what was the big deal?

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    • #42
      Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
      so? whether amateur or professional, he STILL started at 106.

      how do you know floyd lost power and speed? sure, his reflexes aren't what they used to be, but guess what? that comes with age.

      as for Pac's speed, you obviously didn't watch his earlier fights when he was younger. He's waaaay faster then than he is now.

      only difference is that Pac's opponents are much bigger and proportionately slower than his previous opponents and thus make him LOOK faster by comparison.


      How do i kow Floyd lost power and speed?Is that a trick question?

      I`ve seen just about every Floyd fight and at 130 he was knocking people down and out left and right with both hands including top fighters and he had better footwork.After he moved up i noticed his footwork and punching power just was`nt the same.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
        The problem with Manny is he came up from 106 and NO ONE ELSE HAVE EVER DONE THAT!!!!!!! Floyd looks like other great fighters that have moved up but Manny has gotten stronger and more durable.
        yeah, but pac turned pro at 16 and he was like 4'11". so of course he's going to weigh below flyweight.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
          OK people anything is possible and maybe Floyd and Pac are both juicing but that doesn't take away from the fact that eventhough Floyd can be juicing on his long breaks that he is still willing to subject himself to testing and Pac isn't. If it doesn't matter anyway and you can beat it according to Conte, then why didn't and won't Pac take it without knowing when it was being administered? And why so many excuses? I mean, I am not even trying to get on that vibe because it is ridiculous to continue to go down this road if the fight is not agreed upon and signed. Obviously if Floyd was/is willing to subject himself to random testing then why didn't Pac? If neither can get caught then what was the big deal?
          Agreed. But many wont see it that way now that Conte also mentioned actual OST is year round. That may be the new excuse. They will BOTH get tested not just Pac so what is the problem.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Imhotep View Post
            How do i kow Floyd lost power and speed?Is that a trick question?

            I`ve seen just about every Floyd fight and at 130 he was knocking people down and out left and right with both hands including top fighters and he had better footwork.After he moved up i noticed his footwork and punching power just was`nt the same.
            like i said. that comes with age bro. plus the fact that floyd fights less than twice a year on average, that definitely adds to ring rust.

            another way of saying it is that Pac isn't faster, but his opponents just happen to be slower.

            you may have been watching floyd, but you OBVIOUSLY haven't watched Pac.

            he is in no way faster than he was in the lower weights. like i said before, he's actually slower now, but because his opponents in the higher weight class aren't as fast as his lower weight opponents, it only makes Pac LOOK faster.

            in other words, Pac may be slower now than he was before, but he's still WAAAAY faster than his current opponents at the higher weight classes.
            Last edited by AFighter4U; 09-28-2011, 11:11 AM.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by SoggyLungs View Post
              yeah, but pac turned pro at 16 and he was like 4'11". so of course he's going to weigh below flyweight.
              I think he may be speaking of Pac recently moving from 130 to 147 in a matter of a year or so and running through the big boys. Thats 17 lbs. Not a ***** but I even find it su****ious.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                OK people anything is possible and maybe Floyd and Pac are both juicing but that doesn't take away from the fact that eventhough Floyd can be juicing on his long breaks that he is still willing to subject himself to testing and Pac isn't. If it doesn't matter anyway and you can beat it according to Conte, then why didn't and won't Pac take it without knowing when it was being administered? And why so many excuses? I mean, I am not even trying to get on that vibe because it is ridiculous to continue to go down this road if the fight is not agreed upon and signed. Obviously if Floyd was/is willing to subject himself to random testing then why didn't Pac? If neither can get caught then what was the big deal?
                assuming both Pac and floyd are juicing, it simply means floyd is willing to subject himself to tests he already knows he can easily beat since he'd be juicing BEFORE the testing period of two months that he demanded. (as conte alleges)

                that makes floyd no better than Pac (assuming they're BOTH juicing) and you dumb enough to fall for that simple cheap parlor trick.

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                • #48
                  I don't get as a boxing fan how people can say that Pac's legacy is greater than Floyd's, when Floyd has dominated the sport of boxing for his whole professional career undefeated and Pac fought the same guys he did after the fact? Floyd won a title at 154 which Pac never did and Manny still hasn't become the lineal champion at 147? Floyd actually became the number 1 guy twice. Once with Baldomir and then securing the top spot at WW again after he beat Shane Mosley, which would have made him the WBA champion but he didn't pay the sactioning fees. Manny has yet to beat any top fighter at 147. At 130/135 Floyd had a better run then Manny. I'll give Pac beating Hatton at 140 for the Lineal title but Floyd fought more there as well. I know people don't like Floyd personally but to say Pac has a better legacy than Floyd considering Pac has 2 catchweight titles with one being vacant and Mayweather has none is crazy.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
                    like i said. that comes with age bro. plus the fact that floyd fights less than twice a year on average, that definitely adds to ring rust.

                    another way of saying it is that Pac isn't faster, but his opponents just happen to be slower.

                    you may have been watching floyd, but you OBVIOUSLY haven't watched Pac.

                    he is in no way faster than he was in the lower weights. like i said before, he's actually slower now, but because his opponents in the higher weight class aren't as fast as his lower weight opponents, it only makes Pac LOOK faster.

                    in other words, Pac may be slower now than he was before, but he's still WAAAAY faster than his current opponents at the higher weight classes.



                    Pac looked faster then ever in the Hatton and Cotto fight.I`ve been watching the roid user ever since Bantamweight or lower.And i seen fights on youtube that are even older then that.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
                      assuming both Pac and floyd are juicing, it simply means floyd is willing to subject himself to tests he already knows he can easily beat since he'd be juicing BEFORE the testing period of two months that he demanded. (as conte alleges)

                      that makes floyd no better than Pac (assuming they're BOTH juicing) and you dumb enough to fall for that simple cheap parlor trick.
                      Hmmmmm....... Ok, so the guy who is possibly juicing is prepared to subject himself to random blood testing but the other guy who is possibly juicing won't? OK, so if I am going to use my brain then I would think that the guy who is willing to do the test is not worried about it is clean, and the one who is worried about taking it isn't? Does that make sense to you if we were to unbiasly speculate? BECAUSE IF Floyd can get away with it by doing it yearly then why not Pac? I think YOU ARE the dumb one for supporting a guy who won't take a random blood tests or has excuses because at the end of the day NO athlete who is clean OR is smart enough to not get caught would refuse one. So either Pac is dirty or he is just ****** that he cannot juice and get away with it like Mayweather.

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