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  • pasawayako
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    #201
    Hahaha. Floyd drug testing excuse is getting more ridiculous.

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    • iPhoneKiller
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      #202
      The whole point of Olympic style testing is that it is random and all year round. To take the all year round part out and only make it random in a certain time frame is not actually random. It is a fixed time frame...

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      • pasawayako
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        #203
        Originally posted by damned1974
        USADA is doing it slightly wrong then....let's try and get Manny to agree to OST (randomized,but ALL year round) then,eh? haha-good luck,he is too scared to take random testing for 2 months,what makes you think he would agree to testing all year???!!!
        If that is what the NSAC required the all year random test then i bet that pac will do it but i don't know about floyd he would probably take a permanent vacation.

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        • BoxingGenius27
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          #204
          Originally posted by tatangb45
          You showed a link that actually destroyed your argument. Apparently you were hearing only what you wanted to hear.

          At 1:36, Koncz is saying " In one of the fights, we offered to do 14 days before the fight and the day after the fight". Then at 1:45 he added, "ACTUALLY, WE OFFERED TO DO IT ON THE DAY OF THE FIGHT, the commission said no. It is not sterile in the facilities."

          Thank you for confirming and for ending this debate.
          It took you 45 minutes to create that distorted logic?

          What does the day of the fight have anything to do with Team Pac agreeing to OST with a 14 day cut-off in the first place. Team Pac agreed to do testing that has nothing to do with what the commission normally administers.

          Good job at trying to deflect the "original argument" at hand. Which is Team Pac mentioning the commission as the ruling authority, only to agree to do testing outside of the commission which is a complete contradiction.

          You attempting to deflect my original argument and start another debate on "a facility not being sterile" for one day of testing won't cut it. See, it's little tactics like this that you do on a continual everyday basis. It might work with your silly friends, but not me, sir.
          Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 09-28-2011, 01:25 PM.

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          • Fetta
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            #205
            Originally posted by pasawayako
            Hahaha. Floyd drug testing excuse is getting more ridiculous.
            What is so wrong with this type of testing? Someone please tell me what is so wrong? For sure even playing field, they will both be taking the tests, they will both be subjected to the strictest testing available, and they will both have urine and blood taken. What is so wrong? Is it because Floyd asked? It is because Pac said no? What is it that is so bad? If both claim to be god given talent and will make career paydays then whats the problem? Tired of this! Shouldnt be this hard! Look it goes like this...50 mil on table, im god given talent, im clean, and fans want to see it, what is the problem?

            But i know the answer. Because floyd asked...period

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            • tatangb45
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              #206
              Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
              I'm going to do something here that you refuse to do. I'm going to disagree with you and back up my claim with what? Yes, you guessed it, a link.

              0:55 - 2:05. Manny is still going by the rules of the commission only to admit to accepting random blood test with a 14 day cut-off.

              Once again, are we going by the testing rules of the commission or are we going by 14 day random blood testing with a cutoff?


              You showed a link that actually dismantled your arguments. Apparently, you were hearing only what you wanted to hear.

              At 1:36 Koncz was saying, "In one of the fights, we offered to do 14 days before the fight and the day after the fight." Then he added, "ACTUALLY, WE OFFERED TO DO IT ON THE DAY OF THE FIGHT. The commission said no. It is not sterile in the facilities...."

              Thank you for confirming and for ending this debate.

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              • BoxingGenius27
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                #207
                Originally posted by tatangb45
                You showed a link that actually dismantled your arguments. Apparently, you were hearing only what you wanted to hear.

                At 1:36 Koncz was saying, "In one of the fights, we offered to do 14 days before the fight and the day after the fight." Then he added, "ACTUALLY, WE OFFERED TO DO IT ON THE DAY OF THE FIGHT. The commission said no. It is not sterile in the facilities...."

                Thank you for confirming and for ending this debate.
                It took you 45 minutes to create that distorted logic?

                What does the day of the fight have anything to do with Team Pac agreeing to OST with a 14 day cut-off in the first place. Team Pac agreed to do testing that has nothing to do with what the commission normally administers.

                Good job at trying to deflect the "original argument" at hand. Which is Team Pac mentioning the commission as the ruling authority, only to agree to do testing outside of the commission which is a complete contradiction.

                You attempting to deflect my original argument and start another debate on "a facility not being sterile" for one day of testing won't cut it. See, it's little tactics like this that you do on a continual everyday basis. It might work with your silly friends, but not me, sir.

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                • Toyman
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                  #208
                  Originally posted by Fetta
                  Someone has to start the ball rolling and in 2003/2004 no one did. nor in 2005, 2006, 2007, etc... Bottom line is Floyd doesnt trust Team PAc and wants to make sure all is on the level. Is that so wrong? In a sport of hand to hand combat if YOU had a feeling that the other guy was not trustworthy would you ask for tests? I would. If that same person said no to the tests then dropped all these excuses would you say ok he is on the level and i can trust him now or would your su****ion grow. From now on to fight floyd you agree to testing or not. Some say Pac agreed others say no but if he wants the biggest payday of his career then he has to agree. or maybe he hasnt because Arum would take all that money.
                  If you recall during the 2nd negotiation (which is the last known official negotiation) it seems that everything had been agreed upon but then mayweather went on vacation. So, if everything had been agreed upon, I suppose that would include pac agreeing to do whatever blood tests mayweather wanted.

                  Back on topic though, he's not trying to clean up the sport of boxing and you know it.

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                  • Fetta
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by Toyman
                    If you recall during the 2nd negotiation (which is the last known official negotiation) it seems that everything had been agreed upon but then mayweather went on vacation. So, if everything had been agreed upon, I suppose that would include pac agreeing to do whatever blood tests mayweather wanted.

                    Back on topic though, he's not trying to clean up the sport of boxing and you know it.
                    Seems like everything was good because team PAc said it was? Remember Arum saying recently that they NOW FINALLY AGREED but according to you they agreed back then too.

                    So YOU know hes not trying to clean up sport? I dont know him but apparently you do or is that your opinion?

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                    • tatangb45
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                      It took you 45 minutes to create that distorted logic?

                      What does the day of the fight have anything to do with Team Pac agreeing to OST with a 14 day cut-off in the first place. Team Pac agreed to do testing that has nothing to do with what the commission normally administers.

                      Good job at trying to deflect the "original argument" at hand. Which is Team Pac mentioning the commission as the ruling authority, only to agree to do testing outside of the commission which is a complete contradiction.

                      You attempting to deflect my original argument and start another debate on "a facility not being sterile" for one day of testing won't cut it. See, it's little tactics like this that you do on a continual everyday basis. It might work with your silly friends, but not me, sir.
                      You are now grasping for straws. The argument is whether Manny accepted to take the test up to fight. Koncz said THEY OFFERED TO DO IT ON THE DAY OF THE FIGHT, but the commission overruled it. Repeat, THE COMMISSION OVERRULED IT. Now you're blaming Manny for the commission's decision? Speaking of distorted logic...
                      How much more desperate can you get.

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