Why were the OFFICIAL numbers for Shane-Manny never released??

[Larrysbird]

Did Arum already said the numbers?

[Gino Ros]

bump...............

Showtime will not release the numbers.

You will have to dig into the 10-Q to extrapolate that number. And the revenue is so (relatively) small that it gets lost in the sauce.

It failed. But we should have known that from the lack of interest in the FC360's. Pacquiao's FC360 was the lowest rated show on ALL of network TV in a year. Repeat, ALL of network TV.

Pick the absolute worst, crappiest show on Fox or WB or CW you can think of that got cancelled after one week. That show was higher rated than Pacquiao's FC360.

If people won't watch FOR FREE, then how many people are gonna BUY the fight for $60?

[rambov]

What I read was that Showtime doesn't have a system that tallies up the PPV buys!

[Larrysbird]

you think thats the case???so 1.4 million is a lie??why would Bob tell a lie like that??

Why would he lie, publicly? With the IRS listening.

[Gino Ros]

Why would he lie, publicly? With the IRS listening.

that's pretty funny.

Are you familiar with Bob Arum? Bob CONSTANTLY lies to the media.

I can easily give you three or four examples where Bob blatantly lied to the media ... including about purses.

[Larrysbird]

that's pretty funny.

Are you familiar with Bob Arum? Bob CONSTANTLY lies to the media.

I can easily give you three or four examples where Bob blatantly lied to the media ... including about purses.

Well he can lie all that but the IRS?

[Gino Ros]

What I read was that Showtime doesn't have a system that tallies up the PPV buys!

Think about that statement.

Showtime doesn't have the "magic counterooski machines" that figure out how much money they made in a certain month.

CBS. One of the biggest corporations in the world. A publicly-traded company.

[Gino Ros]

Well he can lie all that but the IRS?

You can SAY anything publicly. Just don't lie on your tax return.

And who sees Manny's or Arum's tax returns?

[immortal tech]

was there official numbers released for Cotto vs Mayorga? does showtime even release its PPV numbers

[Gino Ros]

was there official numbers released for Cotto vs Mayorga? does showtime even release its PPV numbers

They CAN. Arum - as the promoter and property owner - tells them not to.