in my opinion Sergio Martinez is not top 5 P4P

[intoccabile]

:confuced: Pacquiao come from 108 pounds and Floyd 130. Matinez can fight at 168

Are you kidding me? Now kindly post the f ight night weights of 168lbs fighters why don't you.

Another idiot with skewed logic. Weighing 168 on fight night doesnt mean they can fight at 168. By your logic Victor Ortiz and Joshua Clottey should be at 168 as well.

[nachorjj]

You wanna talk overrated? look at Pirog. and them Sturm gets a gift against Macklin. You guys have skewed logic


Look what sergio did and against who he did it in 2010 vs what manny did in 2010. He's the best fighter in the world as of 2010 if you PROPERLY look at whats going on in the sport and stop hugging peoples nuts. By the logic the p4p list is based on now, pacman could fight complete bums in his next 10 fights and still would be rated number 1.

Martinez is without doubt better than Pirog and Sturm. But to fight with Barker?
But if you want big fights to unify the belts, and the big fights will come.
Barker not serve

[nachorjj]

I give up. This logic is just way beyond my reach.

you are from Argentina??

[mushahadeen]

Steroidgio Martinez is without doubt better than Pirog and Sturm.

"Without a doubt" huh? Is that why he's fighting BARKER THE GOAT FARMER?

[hugh grant]

i dont think he is p4p no2 as well on the basis of a win over Pavlik, and PW. But i think if given the opportunity he can prove to people that he isnt overated if that makes any sense?

Against Floyd for example, Floyd could either expose Sergio, or reveal to the world that Sergio is in fact deserving of the praise heaped upon him.

[Barry Halls]

you are from Argentina??

No, do argentinians use a different framework for logical thinking?

[nachorjj]

i dont think he is p4p no2 as well on the basis of a win over Pavlik, and PW. But i think if given the opportunity he can prove to people that he isnt overated if that makes any sense?

Against Floyd for example, Floyd could either expose Sergio, or reveal to the world that Sergio is in fact deserving of the praise heaped upon him.

I agree, but I think that Floyd and Pacman are smaller to fight Martinez

[nachorjj]

[QUOTE=Harry Balls;11223689]No, do argentinians use a different framework for logical thinking?[/Q

Why??? I see the pick of Monzon, and I dont right well, Spanish and I could better explain my thoughts.
But not problem

[nachorjj]

No, do argentinians use a different framework for logical thinking?

Why??? I see the pick of Monzon, and I dont right well, Spanish and I could better explain my thoughts.
But not problem

[hugh grant]

I agree, but I think that Floyd and Pacman are smaller to fight Martinez

Yes but i think if Sergio fights at 154, a weight that would favour Floyd, and beats Flooyd, people will think Sergio deserves to be p4pn2.

But i think he could step up to SMW and fight the frochs of this world and see if he is as good as people say. Because stepping up to Froch should be no problem, because thats what p4p is all about.