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  • #11
    All the proof in the world will not help the "Willingly Blind" to see, it's a choice that they've madeto ignore facts and video proof.
    It's a losing battle trying to show these people truths.....

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    • #12
      Originally posted by cixthree View Post
      All the proof in the world will not help the "Willingly Blind" to see, it's a choice that they've madeto ignore facts and video proof.
      It's a losing battle trying to show these people truths.....
      ^ and this is coming from a "blind man leading the blind"

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      • #13
        Originally posted by cixthree View Post
        All the proof in the world will not help the "Willingly Blind" to see, it's a choice that they've madeto ignore facts and video proof.
        It's a losing battle trying to show these people truths.....
        It is what it is. Some will be able to see the truth and some won't.

        It's easy to pick out those that come into threads to hate and those that present good arguments. I ignore the haters and respond to people with good arguments.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by 1dcsailor View Post
          You do know that the commission doesn't fund the testing. The job of the Commission is to administer the State laws and regulations governing unarmed combat for the protection of the public and to ensure the health and safety of the contestants.

          The promoters job is to set up and pay for everything involved in a boxing match and making sure all legal requirements are met as required by the commission.

          The commission would not pay for the testing the promoter would.

          http://mmapayout.com/2011/02/nsac-cu...-drug-testing/

          With state governments around the country tightening their belts amid a widening recession, the NSAC’s budget for out-of-competition testing was reduced to $12,000 (from $18,000) in fiscal year 2009-2010. Regulators then asked the commission to give back all of the money before the year’s end, (NSAC Executive Director Keith) Kizer said.

          In fiscal year 2010-2011, there is no money in the NSAC’s budget for out-of-competition drug testing, though athletes are still tested either the day prior to an event or immediately following it, and sometimes both.



          If the commission is going to mandate OST across the board, which is one of the things Team Pac wants, the commission has to fund it also. This is one of the problems.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by 1dcsailor View Post
            It is what it is. Some will be able to see the truth and some won't.

            It's easy to pick out those that come into threads to hate and those that present good arguments. I ignore the haters and respond to people with good arguments.
            Ameh brotha!!! And thank God for ALT accounts, I don't know what these turdz would do without um. Seems like after every single lie that gets caught on cam, a whole new crop of turdz pop up. And the ones struggling to hold on just look plain ******..

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            • #16
              Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
              http://mmapayout.com/2011/02/nsac-cu...-drug-testing/

              With state governments around the country tightening their belts amid a widening recession, the NSAC’s budget for out-of-competition testing was reduced to $12,000 (from $18,000) in fiscal year 2009-2010. Regulators then asked the commission to give back all of the money before the year’s end, (NSAC Executive Director Keith) Kizer said.

              In fiscal year 2010-2011, there is no money in the NSAC’s budget for out-of-competition drug testing, though athletes are still tested either the day prior to an event or immediately following it, and sometimes both.



              If the commission is going to mandate OST across the board, which is one of the things Team Pac wants, the commission has to fund it also. This is one of the problems.
              Ok, what I should have put is the commission doesn't fund OST testing. That type of testing is outside of the commission which puts the fee associated with it in the hands of the promoter.

              On another note, all that article says is that the commission cut "out of competition testing," so I'm confused as to why you even put that article up.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by 1dcsailor View Post
                Ok, what I should have put is the commission doesn't fund OST testing. That type of testing is outside of the commission which puts the fee associated with it in the hands of the promoter.

                On another note, all that article says is that the commission cut "out of competition testing," so I'm confused as to why you even put that article up.
                Ok, here's how I understand it.


                http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Dru...ers-Bout-24445

                However, recent media attention surrounding boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s insistence that Manny Pacquiao conform to more sensitive blood testing procedures before greenlighting their much-anticipated mega-fight has shone the light on testing protocol in all combat sports. The New Jersey State Athletic Control Board is the only U.S.-based commission to employ random blood testing for MMA and boxing, which it began in June 2007. However, other agencies are now exploring the testing as well. The Nevada State Athletic Commission has said it is considering it for both combat sports, possibly this year.


                Some people think OST should be year round (i.e Victor Conte), because of the possibility for fighters to cycle on their down time, which is why I posted the article about "out of competition" testing. NSAC approves OST, but they don't have the funding to cover it year round for ALL fighters.

                Although I do think Floyd and Pac should do OST during their training camps, the argument has been made that people are picking on Pac and not making "ALL" boxers adhere to OST year round. This is where a few problems come into play:

                1. If the commission mandates OST for ALL fighters, the commission should be the one to cover the finances. If you have Joe Blow who's just starting to box with no money, you can't mandate that he pays for this test if he has no money. This is where the commission or an overseeing authority should step in.

                Personally, if we have problems getting certain fighters to adhere to 8 weeks of OST, I can't see them agreeing to year round. That's just my personal opinion.
                Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 09-26-2011, 10:30 AM.

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                • #18
                  **** what ariza says you forgot the espn interview with pac and the video you put up is edited he talking about last negiotations in that **** and you forgot what floyd said pac your next

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
                    Ok, here's how I understand it.


                    http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Dru...ers-Bout-24445

                    However, recent media attention surrounding boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s insistence that Manny Pacquiao conform to more sensitive blood testing procedures before greenlighting their much-anticipated mega-fight has shone the light on testing protocol in all combat sports. The New Jersey State Athletic Control Board is the only U.S.-based commission to employ random blood testing for MMA and boxing, which it began in June 2007. However, other agencies are now exploring the testing as well. The Nevada State Athletic Commission has said it is considering it for both combat sports, possibly this year.


                    Some people think OST should be year round (i.e Victor Conte), because of the possibility for fighters to cycle on their down time, which is why I posted the article about "out of competition" testing. NSAC approves OST, but they don't have the funding to cover it year round for ALL fighters.

                    Although I do think Floyd and Pac should do OST during their training camps, the argument has been made that people are picking on Pac and not making "ALL" boxers adhere to OST year round. This is where a few problems come into play:

                    1. If the commission mandates OST for ALL fighters, the commission should be the one to cover the finances. If you have Joe Blow who's just starting to box with no money, you can't mandate that he pays for this test if he has no money. This is where the commission or an overseeing authority should step in.

                    Personally, if we have problems getting certain fighters to adhere to 8 weeks of OST, I can't see them agreeing to year round. That's just my personal opinion.
                    In a nutshell. Olympic (Style) Drug testing is a choice for those fighters who could afford it. the commish allows fighters to persue etra testing as long as both fighters agree to it.
                    At this point more testing is an option, so arguing "It should be for all fighters (Well it is)".
                    Seeing as tho Floyd & Manny can afford it, arguing cost is lame. You say manny has agreed, so stop seeming so nervous about it and move on. Stop fighting the drug test man.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by alejandro01 View Post
                      **** what ariza says you forgot the espn interview with pac and the video you put up is edited he talking about last negiotations in that **** and you forgot what floyd said pac your next
                      Using your ALT to say this was smart, I'm sure you'd never use your real account to seem so ******.

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