1.3 million ppv buys for Floyd vs Ortiz

[William Blake]

Also they have to factor in the # of ppl calling in wanting their money back to get the TRUE ppv #'s

This is one of the greatest video's I've ever seen.

"He cheated and they covered it up".

[QADASHBANYAH]

who do u want him to quote ben thompson of floyd hype. who released mayorga vs. cotto's number? arum did and that ppv did 200k. if arum was lying he would have been called out already like schafer's 1.7 projection of star power

SCHAEFERS PROJECTION WAS THAT, A PROJECTION....

MEANING THIS IS WHAT HE THOUGHT HE WAS GETTING, BUT THATS NOT THE CASE HERE WITH ARUM, THERE WAS NO PROJECTION AND REMEMBER HE WAS LYING WHEN HE CAME OUT AND STATED THAT PAC WAS MAKING 20 MILLION A FIGHT ETC.

'HE WASNT AND PAC WAS GETTING 6 MILLION AND THIS IS ACCORDING TO KEITH KIZER..... Now in all honesty I think pac is dirty, but I dont hate him...... I HONESTLY FEEL PAC WANTS TO FIGHT BUT ARUM IS IN THE WAY.... IMO.

I JUST FEEL HE CANT BEAT FLOYD..... HES GOOD BUT HE CANT BEAT FLOYD. ARUM IS A GODDAMN DIRTY LOWDOWN SNAKE.... FACT!!!

[QADASHBANYAH]

arum is not an idiot like you. you don't make up numbers, especially overstate the revenues, if the tax man is listening. and everyones taxes is affected here not just arum/top rank. it affects showtime and the fighters involved because they have their share of the ppv revenues. do you really think showtime will allow arum to lie about ppv numbers to their detriment? you can't lie to the tax collector because they're very good catching cheaters...floyd can attest to that.

LOL SO NOW I AM AN IDIOT HUH??


WELL SMART ASS HOW ABOUT THIS.

IT IS NOT ILLEGAL FOR ARUM TO LIE!!!!

JUST LIKE ITS NOT ILLEGAL FOR YOU TO LIE!!!! UNLESS YOU ARE UNDER OATH....
THE "TAX MAN" AS YOU CALL THE IRS, WILL ONLY TAX YOU ON HOW MUCH WAS BOUGHT IN. THEY DONT GO OFF RUMORS SON, THEY LOOK AT THE BOOKS, THE TICKET SALES ETC.

YOU THINK IF I STATE ON BOXING SCENE AND FACEBOOK AND TWITTER THAT I MAKE 6 MILLION A YEAR THAT THE IRS WILL COME KNOCKING LOOKING TO TAKE MONEY I DONT HAVE??? THINK ABOUT THAT, I THOUGHT YOU WERE WISER THAN THAT.

IF YOUR SMART ASS SEARCHES FOR IT YOU WILL FIND THE TOPIC REGARDING MANNY NOT MAKING 20 MILLION EVEN THOUGH MANNY WAS MAKING 20 MILLION. DO YOU GUYS REALLY BELIEVE MANNY WAS RUNNING THROUGH 20-30 MILLION AND BROKE ASKING FOR MONEY FROM ARUM IN THE FORM OF ADVANCEMENTS? THEN THE ARTICLE ON THIS VERY SITE WAS BROUGHT OUT AND KEITH KIZER STATED MANNY WAS NOT MAKING WHAT ARUM SUGGESTED...

GINO RIOS MAY EVEN HAVE POSTED ABOUT IT AS WELL.

Think of a RAPPER, DOES A RAPPER SAYING HE HAS A MANSION AND A YACHT GET SUED BY THE IRS OR "TAX MAN" AS YOU CALLED HIM FOR LYING??

NOPE ITS A SINGLE ENTITY... AND THEREFORE NOTHING HAPPENS, THEY PAY TAXES ON WHAT THEY ACTUALLY SOLD... ITS A VERY SIMPLE CONCEPT FOOL.

HERE'S ANOTHER ONE, RAPPERS TALK ABOUT HOW MANY MURDERS HES COMMITTED, WHY DOESNT THE POLICE SIMPLY ARREST HIM???

AGAIN SHOWTIME HAS SHARE HOLDERS, IF THEY STATE THAT A FIGHT THEY WERE IN PROMOTIONS WITH DID A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF BUSINESS AND THEY WERE LYING THIS COULD BE MISLEADING TO STOCKHOLDERS AND THATS WHY ITS MISLEADING.

SO YOU ARE PRETTY MUCH A DUMB ASS....

[brick wall]

LOL SO NOW I AM AN IDIOT HUH??


WELL SMART ASS HOW ABOUT THIS.

IT IS NOT ILLEGAL FOR ARUM TO LIE!!!!

JUST LIKE ITS NOT ILLEGAL FOR YOU TO LIE!!!! UNLESS YOU ARE UNDER OATH....
THE "TAX MAN" AS YOU CALL THE IRS, WILL ONLY TAX YOU ON HOW MUCH WAS BOUGHT IN. THEY DONT GO OFF RUMORS SON, THEY LOOK AT THE BOOKS, THE TICKET SALES ETC.

YOU THINK IF I STATE ON BOXING SCENE AND FACEBOOK AND TWITTER THAT I MAKE 6 MILLION A YEAR THAT THE IRS WILL COME KNOCKING LOOKING TO TAKE MONEY I DONT HAVE??? THINK ABOUT THAT, I THOUGHT YOU WERE WISER THAN THAT.

IF YOUR SMART ASS SEARCHES FOR IT YOU WILL FIND THE TOPIC REGARDING MANNY NOT MAKING 20 MILLION EVEN THOUGH MANNY WAS MAKING 20 MILLION. DO YOU GUYS REALLY BELIEVE MANNY WAS RUNNING THROUGH 20-30 MILLION AND BROKE ASKING FOR MONEY FROM ARUM IN THE FORM OF ADVANCEMENTS? THEN THE ARTICLE ON THIS VERY SITE WAS BROUGHT OUT AND KEITH KIZER STATED MANNY WAS NOT MAKING WHAT ARUM SUGGESTED...

GINO RIOS MAY EVEN HAVE POSTED ABOUT IT AS WELL.

Think of a RAPPER, DOES A RAPPER SAYING HE HAS A MANSION AND A YACHT GET SUED BY THE IRS OR "TAX MAN" AS YOU CALLED HIM FOR LYING??

NOPE ITS A SINGLE ENTITY... AND THEREFORE NOTHING HAPPENS, THEY PAY TAXES ON WHAT THEY ACTUALLY SOLD... ITS A VERY SIMPLE CONCEPT FOOL.

HERE'S ANOTHER ONE, RAPPERS TALK ABOUT HOW MANY MURDERS HES COMMITTED, WHY DOESNT THE POLICE SIMPLY ARREST HIM???

AGAIN SHOWTIME HAS SHARE HOLDERS, IF THEY STATE THAT A FIGHT THEY WERE IN PROMOTIONS WITH DID A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF BUSINESS AND THEY WERE LYING THIS COULD BE MISLEADING TO STOCKHOLDERS AND THATS WHY ITS MISLEADING.

SO YOU ARE PRETTY MUCH A DUMB ASS....

you post too much garbage, i am not gonna read all of that. we're talking about ppv revenues here which have tax implications. this is not about the kind of lies that you do on a daily basis. you don't just make up numbers like that and release it to media. if you lie about your revenue you're just inviting irs to examine your books.

and what does arum benefits from overstating ppv numbers really? he's not into this fanatical forum wars about ppvs that you *****s and *******s do on a daily basis like your lives depended on it. do you think it will help his future promotions if he lies about ppvs? who is ****** enough to buy a ppv fight just because arum made up a good number on his previous promotion? you just don't like what he said because you are deep in this fanatical war about ppvs that involves your idol.

and for the record showtime did not confirm or refute the numbers given by arum. maybe they didn't find the need to issue any number because arum already did. it is what it is and you will believe whatever you want to believe anyway so i'm not gonna reply anymore to your ******y because you're dragging me down.

[big_james10]

I thought Floyd was PPV king? He could barely match Manny last fight?

This is with tons of Mexicans buying the fight to see Canelo.

Barely match Manny's last fight? Are you kidding me? Are you actually dumb enough to believe that Pacquaio/Mosley sold 1.3 million PPVs. That was Bob Arum's usual lie. It has been four months and Showtime still has not released the numbers for that fight. When a network refuses to release the numbers, that means that the numbers were poor. Pacquaio has never sold 1.3 million PPVs, even when he fought Oscar. I would bet everything that I own that the Pac/Mosley fight sold 500,000 PPVs at most.

Guys like you help Bob Arum continue to con the boxing media and fans into believing that Pacquaio is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

[damned1974]

So Manny Pacquiao threw over 700 punches,

but wasn't trying to fight?


Its hard to fight someone who keeps running whether they touch gloves or not.

Odd that FOTD couldn't even comprehend how to cut off the ring against an old man who can't fight off of the backfoot...supreme boxing genius,eh?

[hu r u?]

money mays every move produces $$$

[Leohappy]

no surprise there. the card had some big names, but no story or rivalry behind any fight. it didn't attract more than the usual ppv buyers.

may vs. ortiz (=practically nobody)
morales vs. nobody
canelo vs. nobody

i am expecting somewhere around 1.4 as the final number. still not bad. the 9 mil.$ gate is excellent though.

[WesleySnipes]

ahh i love it... first they say "**** Ortiz is a nobody...he wont do even 1 mill PPVs" then it is "ahh its just because of the undercard...Flod aint ****" (yup cause Morales is the real PPV king...haha) then it is "Pacs last fight did the same #s how sad" considering the fact that Pac fought a future HOF & ATG and Floyd only a "cherrypicked" (thats what they say) "nobody"...

Pac - Ortiz (without Floyd fought Ortiz first) wouldnt even do like 700.000...

[jasbar]

1.3 million is not bad considering most fans think that Ortiz was a cherry pick.