1.3 million ppv buys for Floyd vs Ortiz

[brick wall]

that's a pretty good number

anyway, i don't understand why *****s are questioning the ppv numbers for pac-mosley just because it came from the promoter and not the network. if the numbers given were way off it should have been corrected by showtime but they just let it get published in major sports news websites. another thing, if the promoter is just making up numbers what would he get? the fighters will have their share in the ppv revenues so if arum will make up a bigger number he will have to shell out some amount from his own pocket. the taxman is also observing so if arum will declare a higher revenue than actual he will have to shoulder the additional taxes. do you think a sneaky businessman like arum will do that? not in your wildest dream.

[treason1]

whoa !!! hold up !!! i thought they said it was going to do 1.7 or more sorry but 1.3 is a flop !!!!! manny vs mosley did 1.3 with little promotion and on showtime !!! while floyd had morales alverez and a boat load of promotion !!!!! lets look at the facts floyds ppv sales are on the decline while mannys is on the rise !!!!!!!!

mayweather vs mosley = 1.4

mayweather vs ortiz (with morales and alverez fans ) = only 1.3 flop

manny vs mosley = 1.3 = mannys ppv numbers are going up !!!!!

[flipbjefrox]

I am not convinced that PAC Mosely did 1.3 mil. Everything I hear comes from Bob Arum.

I just want the truth. With HBO we will know the exact numbers from this fight in about a week!

Where is the final tally from PAC Mosely???/? HUH?

u do know that pac vs. mosley was on showtime

[Larry the boss]

u do know that pac vs. mosley was on showtime

you owned yourself.nowhere in that post did he say it wasnt on showtime

[flipbjefrox]

you owned yourself.nowhere in that post did he say it wasnt on showtime

y bring up hbo. it's not like when pac fought in hbo the number wasnt released. fat dan already confirmed it yet he's still cryin about arum

[QADASHBANYAH]

that's a pretty good number

anyway, i don't understand why *****s are questioning the ppv numbers for pac-mosley just because it came from the promoter and not the network. if the numbers given were way off it should have been corrected by showtime but they just let it get published in major sports news websites. another thing, if the promoter is just making up numbers what would he get? the fighters will have their share in the ppv revenues so if arum will make up a bigger number he will have to shell out some amount from his own pocket. the taxman is also observing so if arum will declare a higher revenue than actual he will have to shoulder the additional taxes. do you think a sneaky businessman like arum will do that? not in your wildest dream.

If bob arum lies there is no harm no file, but if SHOWTIME STATED THE NUMBERS WERE SOMETHING THEY WERE NOT, THEN THEY COULD BE BROUGHT UP ON CHARGES...

Bob Arum and SHOWTIME WERE IN BED AT THE TIME, FOR FUTURE Pacquiao promotions why would they go against ARUM???

REMEMBER ARUM STATED THAT THE NUMBERS WERE BETWEEN 1.3-1.4 MILLION FOR PAC VS MOSLEY, SO WHICH WAS IT?? THERE ISNT AN EXACT FIGURE?? AND IF IT WAS A SUCCESS LIKE THAT, WHY WOULDNT BOB BE SCREAMING THAT FROM THE TOP OF A MOUNTAIN???

BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THIS, ITS NOT JUST ANY PROMOTER SAYING THIS, BUT THE ONE THAT ADMITS HE LIES.....

[Come∂ian]

whoa !!! hold up !!! i thought they said it was going to do 1.7 or more sorry but 1.3 is a flop !!!!! manny vs mosley did 1.3 with little promotion and on showtime !!! while floyd had morales alverez and a boat load of promotion !!!!! lets look at the facts floyds ppv sales are on the decline while mannys is on the rise !!!!!!!!

mayweather vs mosley = 1.4

mayweather vs ortiz (with morales and alverez fans ) = only 1.3 flop

manny vs mosley = 1.3 = mannys ppv numbers are going up !!!!!

Little promotion? It was promoted on primetime tv during March Madness and fight camp 360 was shown on CBS. And Pacquiao was on 60 minutes. Kill yourself. Floyd just did 1.3 million with a fighter who had never been on a PPV. And of all the casual fans I spoke to none of them said "I cant wait to se Canelo, Vargas and Morales fight".....

[QADASHBANYAH]

y bring up hbo. It's not like when pac fought in hbo the number wasnt released. Fat dan already confirmed it yet he's still cryin about arum

fat dan quoted arum..... The same thing we are discussing now.....

[flipbjefrox]

fat dan quoted arum..... The same thing we are discussing now.....

who do u want him to quote ben thompson of floyd hype. who released mayorga vs. cotto's number? arum did and that ppv did 200k. if arum was lying he would have been called out already like schafer's 1.7 projection of star power

[brick wall]

If bob arum lies there is no harm no file, but if SHOWTIME STATED THE NUMBERS WERE SOMETHING THEY WERE NOT, THEN THEY COULD BE BROUGHT UP ON CHARGES...

Bob Arum and SHOWTIME WERE IN BED AT THE TIME, FOR FUTURE Pacquiao promotions why would they go against ARUM???

REMEMBER ARUM STATED THAT THE NUMBERS WERE BETWEEN 1.3-1.4 MILLION FOR PAC VS MOSLEY, SO WHICH WAS IT?? THERE ISNT AN EXACT FIGURE?? AND IF IT WAS A SUCCESS LIKE THAT, WHY WOULDNT BOB BE SCREAMING THAT FROM THE TOP OF A MOUNTAIN???

BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THIS, ITS NOT JUST ANY PROMOTER SAYING THIS, BUT THE ONE THAT ADMITS HE LIES.....

arum is not an idiot like you. you don't make up numbers, especially overstate the revenues, if the tax man is listening. and everyones taxes is affected here not just arum/top rank. it affects showtime and the fighters involved because they have their share of the ppv revenues. do you really think showtime will allow arum to lie about ppv numbers to their detriment? you can't lie to the tax collector because they're very good catching cheaters...floyd can attest to that.