Will Taylor be HBO's Biggest creation?

[BiggestBoxingFanEver]

HBO's biggest creation in my opinion was Micheal Grant.

Edit:
Biggest hype that is.

[BLOODSHED]

Well said... but Wlad is worst. Grant got his ass handed to him and we dont see him. Wlad has been terrible the last four years and hes still on cable.

HBO's biggest creation in my opinion was Micheal Grant.

Edit:
Biggest hype that is.

[Manny_P]

Well said... but Wlad is worst. Grant got his ass handed to him and we dont see him. Wlad has been terrible the last four years and hes still on cable.

doo they gotta keep Wlad in ta mix cuz he's white. media and business need a white guy (no matta how bad he performs) to get ta WHITE CROWD. Isn't it a wonder why Golota aswell aint gettin retired. LOL! Wlad will always be on capable even if he gets KOed 3 times in a row. LOL!

[BLOODSHED]

On the same coin, you could ask why Gatti is still on TV. Everytime he challenges someone decent he gets his butt handed to him.

doo they gotta keep Wlad in ta mix cuz he's white. media and business need a white guy (no matta how bad he performs) to get ta WHITE CROWD. Isn't it a wonder why Golota aswell aint gettin retired. LOL! Wlad will always be on capable even if he gets KOed 3 times in a row. LOL!

[Pac Man Fan 83]

with his BS decision over hopkins, HBO has tried ILLEGALLY to market taylor as their meal ticket. hes overhyped and as soon as he faces a real challenge, like hopkins, he'll fall short and HBO typically wont give up on him.

So you think that if Hopkins beats Taylor in the rematch, HBO should give up on Jermaine Taylor?

That is ridiculous.

[scap]

Well said... but Wlad is worst. Grant got his ass handed to him and we dont see him. Wlad has been terrible the last four years and hes still on cable.

You couldnt be more wrong!

Im no big Wlad fan but if you want to compare Wlad and Grant you are going to look foolish.

Wlad has a pretty impressive resume that includes a thrashing of a curent beltholder...Grant resume pales in comparison.

Once Grant was ko'd he was all thru, Im not saying Wlad will be champ tommorrow but the vicotry over Peter although not overly impressive shows that he is no Grant and that he still can possibly be a noise maker.

Again Im no Wlad fan but no one can deny his offesnive arsenal, it is as complete as any HW you will find.

[BLOODSHED]

Dude, please. Im comparing how HBO responded to Grants loss and Wlads miserable last four years. One is still on TV and the other is fighting on small time cards.

Corrie Bear Belly Sanders TKOd Wlad and Sanders was NEVER pound for pound material.

Forrest is off cable after losing to Mayorga(who was a p4p listee) who is very good. HBO dropped Mosley after losing to Forrest and Winky (no shame there, two more p4p listees). HBO is hyping Wlad... open your eyes please.

HBO is intent on pushing Wlad down our throats and people need to say enough is enough to that tv company.

You couldnt be more wrong!

Im no big Wlad fan but if you want to compare Wlad and Grant you are going to look foolish.

Wlad has a pretty impressive resume that includes a thrashing of a curent beltholder...Grant resume pales in comparison.

Once Grant was ko'd he was all thru, Im not saying Wlad will be champ tommorrow but the vicotry over Peter although not overly impressive shows that he is no Grant and that he still can possibly be a noise maker.

Again Im no Wlad fan but no one can deny his offesnive arsenal, it is as complete as any HW you will find.

[druth]

In all seriousness Taylor is no creation, neither is Cotto...Taylor was a viable contender up until his fight with Hopkins and he got the decision therfore he is the champ...keep in mind there is either 1 champ in a division or no champ, not three or four or two.

Cotto is a very solid "contender" that is trying to become champ...your either a bum, a contender or the champ and Taylor beat Hopkins therfore he is no creation, you dont beat Bernard Hopkins purely on luck or a good marketing campaign...

Totally agree with you, Scap.

Taylor has all the talent and skill in the world, you can see that when he fights. Granted he has a few flaws, but every fighter does. The kid is young and this skilled, when he's 31 he's going to be damn near unbeatable.

The Klitschko's aren't really an HBO creation either. They both had impressive amateur records and have loads of skill. Wladimir his a bad streak for a few fights, and Vitali is a smart fighter, although a lot might call him something starting with a "P".

Cotto and Gatti are the two biggest creations from HBO. Gatti is an exciting fighter, however he just doesn't have the skill to compete with the top tier fighters. Look at the people that he lost to, and that proves the point.

Cotto has skill, but he just isn't impressive to me, he seems to fight to the level of his competition. Only time will tell with this kid.

[scap]

Dude, please. Im comparing how HBO responded to Grants loss and Wlads miserable last four years. One is still on TV and the other is fighting on small time cards.

Corrie Bear Belly Sanders TKOd Wlad and Sanders was NEVER pound for pound material.

Forrest is off cable after losing to Mayorga(who was a p4p listee) who is very good. HBO dropped Mosley after losing to Forrest and Winky (no shame there, two more p4p listees). HBO is hyping Wlad... open your eyes please.

HBO is intent on pushing Wlad down our throats and people need to say enough is enough to that tv company.

You asked me to take you a part and undress you so I will...

First off HBO gave Grant a fight with a guy name Jameel McCline after his loss to Lewis...remember that...Grant lasted a few seconds. He then on his own accord stepped back and began taking on lesser opponents to gain confidence..after a disgusting performance against Gilber Martinez HBO gave him another crack against Guinn and he was murdered...so following Grants loss HBO gave him two more dates and he was stopped in both of them. (keep in mind Grant was not competitive in either defeat)

Secondly when Wlad was stopped by Sanders he then fought too fights that HBO refused to show...he then stepped up against Brewster and was stopped but keep in mind son that he was doiminating the action until the end...the fight was exrrememly fun too watch...(yes that has something to do with it)

As for Forrest...1) he has been off for almost two years...but he was set in his first fight back months and months ago to take on Teddy Reid on HBO...he pulled out with an injury...his last fight was on HBO PPV before his date on BDSSP last thursday.

Vernon is an HBO fighter and will fight on HBO again and again and again...his injury has everything to do with his absence from HBO but it is obvious that you forgot about his scheduled bout with Reid and his PPV appearance on none other than HBO.

Now for Shane Mosely you dip****...he was telveside on HBO in something like 14 of his last 15 fights including his last fight against Cruz...the only fight he was not televised in was his bout with Estrada which was a ESPN PPV card, but again you probably dont understand or remember this.

So enough is enough with HBO right? You make zero sense, HBO has not ignored or turned there back on Mosely and Forrest as you suggest (I guarantee they cant wait to bring a guy like Forrest back into the fold)...they didnt turn their back on Grant...got two dates post LEwis and then he decided to start fighting club fighters...Wlad has been given the same opportunities that Grant got...are you tellimg anyone who will listen that HBO was ****** to televise Wlad v. Peter? GOD DAMN DUMB!

Your arguemnts make no sense...I would like you to now admit that you were wrong and that you are sorry-go talk boxing with people who dont understand it...dont talk boxing with me!

[blockhead]

In all seriousness Taylor is no creation, neither is Cotto...Taylor was a viable contender up until his fight with Hopkins and he got the decision therfore he is the champ...keep in mind there is either 1 champ in a division or no champ, not three or four or two.

Cotto is a very solid "contender" that is trying to become champ...your either a bum, a contender or the champ and Taylor beat Hopkins therfore he is no creation, you dont beat Bernard Hopkins purely on luck or a good marketing campaign...

taylor didnt really beat hopkins in that fight. that split was a joke and everyone in the building knew it.
taylor is going to get wrecked soon, if it isnt b-hop it will be one of the other boxers in his weight range that are more skilled than taylor.
taylor isnt a creation of hbo he is a creation of dibella.