Vitali Klitschko Boxing Records

[kiDynamite92]

why does race and colour have to play a part in these posts?
If the Klitschko's were discriminated against because of race and colour than why is Rocky Marciano rated as number 3 on heavyweight ATG rankings? Why is Lennox Lewis rated in the top 15? Why is Pacman loved by so many americans? why is floyd hated by americans? Racism doesn't have a part in their rankings, fact is Young Wlad lost to fat boy Sander and Vitali had a war with him. Wlads problems are his chin and his lack of variety, his jab has to be questioned considering how often he missed Haye, who i've never even seen head movement from. Tyson, Frazier, Ali have 10x better movement and not to mention actual skill unlike Haye. Vitali is much better than Wlad, but he's just realy slow, you saw how chris byrd was making him miss, imagaine how he'd miss against Tyson, Holyfield, Ali etc. BTW if you wanna be looking at peoples records and ranking them of that, than Marciano is the greatest and so is Floyd 'sucker punch, wife beater, eye poker, gay boy' Mayweather not to mention all the others that are undefeated. I rank them of their attributes and how they handle their class of opposition, and so far their oppositions are fat a$$ fxcks!

[jimmy1569]

How many times had Lennox lost 4 rds before in a full 12 rd bout? Probably A couple.. maybe 3 fights at best... now how many times has he ever lost 4 out of 6 rds in ANY stretch of any of his bouts? The answer is most likely zero EXCEPT for his last fight. Has Lennox ever trailed on the scorecards before Vitali? It could've only happened twice when he got ktfo.... In The RAHMAN fight he was ahead & Mccall took less than 5 minutes to dispose of him.. dunno who was leading there..


Point is Vitali IS THE ONLY FIGHTER EVER TO CLEARLY OUTBOX LENNOX & OUTSLUG HIM for a 6 rd timeframe.. Did HE meet his match & then some & panick into retirement... you be the judge but ALL YOU HATERS. SHOULD STOP UNDERMINING WHAT vITALI DID that night... HE DID ALOT OF THINGS NO ONE HAD EVER DONE TO THE GREAT LENNOX LEWIS BEFORE.. YOU COULD SAY LENNOX FINALLY MET SOME ONE WHO was his peer & then some..

Vitali clearly out boxed him.. landed about 60 more shots than him through 6 rds... that's alot... no accident there guys.. Vitali does this to EVERYONE LL was no exception... he was just lucky enough to cut him & get the fight prematurely stopped in his favor WHEN THE FIGHT WAS not in his favor.

[kiDynamite92]

Lennox Lewis was 37 at the time, he came in the heaviest he's ever been in his boxing life and it showed in the post match interview with Mercent where his gut was sticking out. Lennox isn't much of a boxer either, Bruno was clearly outboxing him untill Lennox unloaded. Ray Mercer was also out boxing him for the majority of the match. That last round you could see the match was turning in Lennox's favour, infact he almost had Vitali out in the earlier rounds with an uppercut, but Vitali luckily hung on. Vitali couldnt have taken much more of his uppercuts, the match was turning and it was only a matter of time before LL put his combinations together and put the Dr to sleep.

[cupocity303]

Oh my, this posts sentence structure is so horrible, I don't even know where to begin breaking it apart, but lets give it a shot.

why does race and colour have to play a part in these posts?
If the Klitschko's were discriminated against because of race and colour than why is Rocky Marciano rated as number 3 on heavyweight ATG rankings?

He is? And what rankings are you referring to? I don't think he is # 3 and have never seen a list that had him ranked that high. But even if he did, the difference would be that he is American, not Eastern European.

The white, old timers with the cigars, like Bert Sugar are very biased towards their own, U.S. based sluggers, black or white. Moving on.

Wlads problems are his chin and his lack of variety,

How is his lack of variety a problem? When he lost to "fat boy Sanders", he still had gaps in his armor. He has since then, closed those gaps and perfected his Tall-man, fighting style.

He is one-dimensional, but it's one of the greatest one-dimensions of all time, or else he wouldn't be dominating as consistently as he has been. Surely you're not ignorant enough to attribute all his dominant victories just because of the quality of opposition.

his jab has to be questioned considering how often he missed Haye, who i've never even seen head movement from.

No head movement from Haye? Did someone send you to this forum from a Alternative Universe? All Haye did that night was defensive posturing with lots of footwork and head movement.

Tyson, Frazier, Ali have 10x better movement and not to mention actual skill unlike Haye. Vitali is much better than Wlad, but he's just realy slow, you saw how chris byrd was making him miss, imagaine how he'd miss against Tyson,

The same Tyson who lost to Buster Douglas. Or the Prime Tyson in the early 80's, who was Ko'ing journeyman in the early rounds, without his stamina having been tested. Now lets watch you type up an excuse for Tyson, while not extending the same pass to Wlad, for losing to "Fat Boy Sanders". Only Tyson can have excuses, nobody else right?

Holyfield, Ali etc.

Typical American propaganda. Yeah just list all of the big names, one after the other, like they're unbeatable, and don't have any flaws. Is Ali a great body puncher?

BTW if you wanna be looking at peoples records and ranking them of that, than Marciano is the greatest and so is Floyd 'sucker punch, wife beater, eye poker, gay boy' Mayweather not to mention all the others that are undefeated.

Stop equating Marciano to the Klitschko's, nitwit. There is a clear difference. Those two dominate their opponents, and the other guys (Marciano) face took a beating in every fight to get a victory.

I rank them of their attributes and how they handle their class of opposition, and so far their oppositions are fat a$$ fxcks!

I guess you did answer my question from the top. Another ignorant American who think that the only reason they dominate is because they're fighting Fat Asses. How can one reason with you people, when you don't even make great points, and just drivel and rant on with the most ******ed comments.


Just going through your post made my IQ drop.

[jimmy1569]

why does race and colour have to play a part in these posts?
If the Klitschko's were discriminated against because of race and colour than why is Rocky Marciano rated as number 3 on heavyweight ATG rankings? Why is Lennox Lewis rated in the top 15? Why is Pacman loved by so many americans? why is floyd hated by americans? Racism doesn't have a part in their rankings, fact is Young Wlad lost to fat boy Sander and Vitali had a war with him. Wlads problems are his chin and his lack of variety, his jab has to be questioned considering how often he missed Haye, who i've never even seen head movement from. Tyson, Frazier, Ali have 10x better movement and not to mention actual skill unlike Haye. Vitali is much better than Wlad, but he's just realy slow, you saw how chris byrd was making him miss, imagaine how he'd miss against Tyson, Holyfield, Ali etc. BTW if you wanna be looking at peoples records and ranking them of that, than Marciano is the greatest and so is Floyd 'sucker punch, wife beater, eye poker, gay boy' Mayweather not to mention all the others that are undefeated. I rank them of their attributes and how they handle their class of opposition, and so far their oppositions are fat a$$ fxcks!

Alot of rambling there.. son. Some valid points & some inconsistent ones.. The Klitschko's get discriminated on because they're from a Russian/Ukrainian descent ( not the greatest ally in the states)..... not because of there color so much..... yes others transcend the barriers of race & issues like Pacman & a few others.

I'll tell you why they're REALLY disCRIMINATED? It'S there size & overwhelming dominance.. people feel like there's no one on there level wahtsoever & the fact that they're big they're automatically supposed to dominate as they have all the advantages in size & strength.. sometimes too much dominance is boring.. The Klitschko's get more knockouts than anyone... there last name ends in KO for crying out loud... they're the oNLY BROTHERS ever to be literally atop of a sport together...


If WE can't market this.... something has to be wrong & a bias clearly exists.. The Klitschko's have boxing skills & they know how to fight.. using there size & strength.... they can't be faulted because they hit the genetics lottery.. These boys know how to fight... know how to punch & know how to defend.. If it were that easy.. we'd have fighters of there size doing the same.. only Lennox COMES CLOSE & he was slightly smaller in stature. Think of them in basketball terms... they're like the 2 most dominant centers of alltime.. Wilt or Shaquille... take your pick...

WE have to recognize what we're witnessing will never happen again... maybe we'll get one fighter with there size be as dominant but we certainly won't get 2 brothers from the same mom 5 years apart dominating like this again.

[jimmy1569]

Oh my, this posts sentence structure is so horrible, I don't even know where to begin breaking it apart, but lets give it a shot.




He is? And what rankings are you referring to? I don't think he is # 3 and have never seen a list that had him ranked that high. But even if he did, the difference would be that he is American, not Eastern European.

The white, old timers with the cigars, like Bert Sugar are very biased towards their own, U.S. based sluggers, black or white. Moving on.





How is his lack of variety a problem? When he lost to "fat boy Sanders", he still had gaps in his armor. He has since then, closed those gaps and perfected his Tall-man, fighting style.

He is one-dimensional, but it's one of the greatest one-dimensions of all time, or else he wouldn't be dominating as consistently as he has been. Surely you're not ignorant enough to attribute all his dominant victories just because of the quality of opposition.





No head movement from Haye? Did someone send you to this forum from a Alternative Universe? All Haye did that night was defensive posturing with lots of footwork and head movement.





The same Tyson who lost to Buster Douglas. Or the Prime Tyson in the early 80's, who was Ko'ing journeyman in the early rounds, without his stamina having been tested. Now lets watch you type up an excuse for Tyson, while not extending the same pass to Wlad, for losing to "Fat Boy Sanders". Only Tyson can have excuses, nobody else right?




Typical American propaganda. Yeah just list all of the big names, one after the other, like they're unbeatable, and don't have any flaws. Is Ali a great body puncher?



Stop equating Marciano to the Klitschko's, nitwit. There is a clear difference. Those two dominate their opponents, and the other guys (Marciano) face took a beating in every fight to get a victory.

I rank them of their attributes and how they handle their class of opposition, and so far their oppositions are fat a$$ fxcks!

I guess you did answer my question from the top. Another ignorant American who think that the only reason they dominate is because they're fighting Fat Asses. How can one reason with you people, when you don't even make great points, and just drivel and rant on with the most ******ed comments.


Just going through your post made my IQ drop.

Good job...... nice going!

[cupocity303]

Lennox isn't much of a boxer either, Bruno was clearly outboxing him untill Lennox unloaded.

Yet his Boxing was still enough to outbox the guy in your avatar, and make him turn from a Badass Bully into a B1tch, kissing his daddy Lewis on the cheek for humbling him.

If you're gonna hold one loss against Vitali, then we have to hold Tyson's loss in his Prime 20's, Vs Douglas. The first expose.

And his loss to Lennox. Which of course I do. VItali and Wlad both Ko Tyson in the late rounds, after systematically breaking him down and making him get tired late.

If you think Tyson TKO's them both early, like they're just another Journeyman from the 80's, or Michael Spinks, you're sadly mistaken.

[rorymac]

You bringin' it old school Joe C... SPA had me rolling!

It's impressive

[Joeyzagz]

How many fights does a fighter have to win (dominate?) in order to make up for one loss?

He can win 100 fights against 100 girls. None of it will matter. Hes never going to find another opponent as big, fast, skilled or accomplished as Lennox Lewis(unless he fought bro). He had his chance in that 2nd round and blew it.

I edited it...... since it was a tricky & deceptive post on your part to all the fighters you mentioned... the ones who lost is what I really meant... as they were the old ones...... you look it up for me & tell me if that drubbing they got was the last one administered to them?

But those were all one-sided drubbings as they should be.. Lennox-Vitali was a 2 way battle with Lennox landing at a much higher ratio. Lennox had a 31 prime athlete wheezing and holding on to him in the 6th round! How many previous challengers looked pathetic as this?

Go watch Marciano, Tyson, Holmes, Dempsey if you want to see what a victorious challenger looks like. Vitali is not one.

[jimmy1569]

Collectively.. they haven't been beat in nearly 8 yrs.... that's about 15 yrs of dominance if you add them together. The public & fans of the heavyweight division want to see them lose a fight... perhaps they should narrow this all or nothing thinking & just clamor for them to lose a rd first... small steps... i always say.