Floyd's behavior is more su****ious than Pac's when it comes to PED use!

[Toyman]

Wait a second. Which one is it. First you say HGH has never been detected via OST, but then I read this:


Quote:
The hGH blood test has been in existence since the 2004 Athens Olympics and after thousands and thousands of tests, it can claim only a handful of analytical positives for hGH.

British rugby player Terry Newton was reported to be the first athletes caught using hGH as a result of an analytical positive from the blood test. However, the truth of the matter is that the drug testers knew in advance that Newton was using human growth hormone before they tested him.

Contradicting ourselves are we?

yes sorry i was doing this research as we speak

either way the main point of both links is clear: The blood test for HGH is relatively ineffective at this point in time.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Are you serious man... Now you see what I mean when I said you can't read.

A few pages back, I clearly stated that year round OST isn't financially possible. I even gave you a definition for "financially possible". I also gave you links to NSAC and Victor Conte agreeing that at the moment year round OST isn't possible. Since it's not financially possible, fighters are doing what they can in the meantime.

This is getting funner and funner by the moment Make some more posts so I can make you look even ******er... I'll wait.

I clearly gave a formula to make it financially possible.

But uh,yea, "******er".

Anyhow,

if it isn't year round, in and out of competition,

its not random drug testing.

But go ahead, make me look "******er".

[BoxingGenius27]

I have considered that actually - but if you read the next link i sent, it says that a few had been found (1st article was from 2010, 2nd from 2011)

However, only a few had been found and if you read the important bit, one of them was found only because they knew beforehand that he was using it.
I guess it's safe to conclude from that that there are athlets who use HGH and can pass the test quite easily.

Honestly, i think the best that can be done for now is to hope a better test comes out - from what ive read anyway, as long as you can detect the other steroids/peds, hgh alone is pretty much useless.

We can forget about EPO - because it is detectable in urine tests.

Here' all I'm saying. If you "take" the test and pass; no harm, no foul. It's as simple as that. If an athlete is dirty but takes and beats the test, then more power to him. Maybe he's not taking anything to begin with explaining why he passed the test.

But I'm reading guys in this thread basically saying things like "We don't need drug testing because it's not 100% effective".... WTF?

Secondly, at least the guys you mentioned above are taking the test. This is more than I can say for some athletes.

[Toyman]

Are you serious man... Now you see what I mean when I said you can't read.

A few pages back, I clearly stated that year round OST isn't financially possible. I even gave you a definition for "financially possible". I also gave you links to NSAC and Victor Conte agreeing that at the moment year round OST isn't possible. Since it's not financially possible, fighters are doing what they can in the meantime.

This is getting funner and funner by the moment Make some more posts so I can make you look even ******er... I'll wait.

If it isn't financially possible, then what is the problem?

I'm not sure what you're arguing about frankly, but i think his argument that mayweather version of olympic style testing is useless is right.

From my current understanding, the only difference is that there's a remote chance they'd find Hgh - which alone is apparently ineffective.

The only fighter which really took an "active" approach to this is mayweather, and i dont think even he is serious about it - his undercard was full of fighters who just did the nsac test.



Anyway, if this is not what you were arguing about - then never mind just say so and i'll stop posting about it.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Here' all I'm saying. If you "take" the test and pass; no harm, no foul. It's as simple as that. If an athlete is dirty but takes and beats the test, then more power to him. Maybe he's not taking anything to begin with explaining why he passed the test.

But I'm reading guys in this thread basically saying things like "We don't need drug testing because it's not 100% effective".... WTF?

Secondly, at least the guys you mentioned above are taking the test. This is more than I can say for some athletes.

No you clown. What people have been saying the entire time is since Floyd pussed out is,

you don't test particular fighters. You test all, or none. No sport tests just a few participants, they test all.

From the very worst, to the very best,

everyone gets the same treatment so as to be fair and just to the athletes and the sport.

[Toyman]

Here' all I'm saying. If you "take" the test and pass; no harm, no foul. It's as simple as that. If an athlete is dirty but takes and beats the test, then more power to him. Maybe he's not taking anything to begin with explaining why he passed the test.

But I'm reading guys in this thread basically saying things like "We don't need drug testing because it's not 100% effective".... WTF?

Secondly, at least the guys you mentioned above are taking the test. This is more than I can say for some athletes.

I see your point, but the mayweather test and osdt are two very different things when you come to think about it.


The guys I mentioned take the osdt, which is not what mayweather advocates.

And please correct me if im wrong: but is it not true that the only thing which the osdt would detect that the nsac wont is hgh?

[BoxingGenius27]

I clearly gave a formula to make it financially possible.

But uh,yea, "******er".

Anyhow,

if it isn't year round, in and out of competition,

its not random drug testing.

But go ahead, make me look "******er".

Haha I guess with your formula, you thought of something that all the politicians in Nevada and NSAC themselves haven't thought of right? You're killing me man, but keep it coming. I find it very amusing.

NOTE: You asked for me to make you look "******er", well here it is lol:

******er is the adj. to ******: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/******er

stu·pid (stpd, sty-)
adj. stu·pid·er, stu·pid·est
1. Slow to learn or understand; obtuse.
2. Tending to make poor decisions or careless mistakes.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Haha I guess with your formula, you thought of something that all the politicians in Nevada and NSAC themselves haven't right? You're killing me man, but keep it coming. I find it very amusing.

NOTE: You asked for me to make you look "******er", well here it is lol:

******er is the adj. to ******: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/******er

stu·pid (stpd, sty-)
adj. stu·pid·er, stu·pid·est
1. Slow to learn or understand; obtuse.
2. Tending to make poor decisions or careless mistakes.

But you didn't make me look ******er by talking about boxing.

You tried to do it with a definition?

lol,


"Fax",

the Floyd Commission test is useless and has no way of deterring anyone from cheating if its not done for all fighters, year round, in and out of competition.

Thats why Floyds behavior is more su****ious than any other fighter in the sport.

[BoxingGenius27]

Anyway, if this is not what you were arguing about - then never mind just say so and i'll stop posting about it.

Go back to page 12 or so and find my first post.

This argument has went sideways in about 10 different directions ever since smart guy showed up lol. But no this wasn't the original argument.

[BoxingGenius27]

But you didn't make me look ******er by talking about boxing.

You tried to do it with a definition?

lol,


"Fax",

the Floyd Commission test is useless and has no way of deterring anyone from cheating if its not done for all fighters, year round, in and out of competition.

Thats why Floyds behavior is more su****ious than any other fighter in the sport.

Ok troll, go back to page 12 and start over. You're lost here and you've already lost and don't even realize it.

Go fetch my first post and start there, then you'll understand. Until then, you're just a lost cause.