Finally, a reasonable writeup on why Floyd's PED thoughts are baseless

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  • JOM'S
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    #61
    Originally posted by Everywhere
    People overlook the fact that PEDs aren't all necessarily about strength or speed. Things like blood doping (EPO) are all about endurance. I don't think so many cyclists are using PEDs so their legs can be stronger, they are using them for increased endurance. Boxing is an endurance sport.

    People who make the assumption that the PED accusations are about size and speed are being naive. I have much more su****ion of Pacquiao for blood doping based on his insane endurance and work rates than I do for any type of anabolic steroids.
    PAC trains as hard as anyobody, resulting to insane endurance not to mention he had great stamina since he was young...

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    • » HE3R0 «
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      #62
      Originally posted by Larryx2011
      go to goldenboys roster of fighters and tell me where you see floyd...ill wait...
      Originally posted by Danny Gunz
      Might wanna check that list again Larry, cause Floyd is definitely sitting there.

      http://www.goldenboypromotions.com/fighters/
      Haha, who put him there?!

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      • iNDOLiFER
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        #63
        *****s: pac is on peds, theres no way a person can climb up in weight and still be that fast and that strong. A few weeks later, floyd vs pac who wins? *****s: floyd murder pac, pac is to slow not strong enough to easy to hit.

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        • Mayabang
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          #64
          Originally posted by JOM'S
          PAC trains as hard as anyobody, resulting to insane endurance not to mention he had great stamina since he was young...
          That's what's annoying about alot of these haters. They just overlook the fact that Pac trains HARD. And he's not even hiding it. You always see his vids training everytime he fights, you see him spar, hit the bags like there's not tomorrow, run with his crew, eat, etc. But these damn haters love to just ignore that and love to believe Pac is on PED for some reason. What about just being realistic?

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          • JDezi4
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            #65
            Floyd Mayweather used to say this back when people criticized him for fighting Marquez. I think its even on youtube in one of his interviews. Besides, anyone who knows how PED's work knows that this evidence he doesn't disprove that Manny's on PED's. The "moving up in weight class" argument was never the top "example" as to how whether or not Manny was using....

            I'm not saying he's using, in fact, if he ever was, he's definitely not right now, but there's no evidence to prove he wasn't using them back when he initially denied testing

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            • Al3x
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              #66
              @SuckerPunchKO

              Green K given mate, that post on floyd on PEDs actually made sense.

              =)

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              • » HE3R0 «
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                #67
                Originally posted by Mayabang
                That's what's annoying about alot of these haters. They just overlook the fact that Pac trains HARD. And he's not even hiding it. You always see his vids training everytime he fights, you see him spar, hit the bags like there's not tomorrow, run with his crew, eat, etc. But these damn haters love to just ignore that and love to believe Pac is on PED for some reason. What about just being realistic?
                True.

                If people have questions about Manny's nutrition, all they have to do is ask Ariza. Ariza talks publicly(blogs, youtube) and answers questions about Pac's nutrition and training.

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                • Nonitard
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                  #68
                  whole outrage over PEDs is overrated and the idea that Floyd is helping boxing is overrated as well.

                  people want Pac to take the test inorder for the fight to be made with Floyd. He has agreed to it already, so there's no reason unless Floyd takes a vacation the figth cant be made made next year

                  After that, Pacquiao is not obligated to take any OSDT for any future fights after a Mayweather fight.

                  so really, how is that helping the sport? Pac will allegedly not cheat for one fight, then possibly cheat for the others?

                  Only way to help the sport is for the commission to mandate stringent blood testing.

                  Stop singling out one guy.

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                  • JohnnyQuppercut
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Everywhere
                    People overlook the fact that PEDs aren't all necessarily about strength or speed. Things like blood doping (EPO) are all about endurance. I don't think so many cyclists are using PEDs so their legs can be stronger, they are using them for increased endurance. Boxing is an endurance sport.

                    People who make the assumption that the PED accusations are about size and speed are being naive. I have much more su****ion of Pacquiao for blood doping based on his insane endurance and work rates than I do for any type of anabolic steroids.
                    That is an extremely slippery slope my friend.

                    Are you going to break down Manny's compubox punch output (punches thrown / landed) over 12 rounds and honestly tell me that on average, they're that much different than a multitude of highly offensive fighters in the sport?

                    I don't buy that for a second.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Danny Gunz
                      Might wanna check that list again Larry, cause Floyd is definitely sitting there.

                      http://www.goldenboypromotions.com/fighters/

                      LOL


                      Talk about an epic ownage.

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