Did the Ortiz fight make Floyd think hes not quite ready for Khan.

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  • Skyhook
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    #21
    Kahn will just end up getting outclassed by Floyd. Once he starts getting tagged he will end of backpedalling like he did against Maidana, he has a crappy chin. The problem is he won't be able to hit Floyd either.

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    • -Antonio-
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      #22
      Originally posted by ballayballay
      All I know is that Ortiz was beginning to tag Mayweather in the 4th and before the headbutt, it was turning out to be his best round.

      Mayweather on the other hand may have been getting a little discouraged after hitting Ortiz with everything, only to see him apply more pressure.

      That cheap shot was a golden opportunity for Floyd to end the fight before the going got rough.


      Does this mean that he's having 2nd thoughts about Khan? Maybe, but not necessarily. Ortiz is a southpaw and carries more power than Khan. Khan is taller, has faster hands and a superior jab, not to mention more heart than Ortiz. And we have yet to witness how he fits the role of a welter. I'm sure these things are on Mayweather's mind but depending on how he assesses both fighters, either views Khan as an easier or tougher fight. Only man who knows for sure is himself.
      The more I watch the fight the more I believe this. There's no way we'll know for sure whether Floyd was getting frustrated or not because the fight was too short. What we do know is Vic was walking through Floyd's shots and starting to land in the 4th.

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        #23
        Originally posted by champ_kw
        Getting hit 6 times per round sure is a battle. Anybody with half a brain knew what road that fight was going down. Realize what you guys are clamoring about. The bar for Floyd is set so high that...wait for it....getting HIT in a FIGHT is a big deal to you guys. He got hit an average of 6 times a round. Ortiz didn't land a single jab. And that's a hard nights work, now?
        A hard and tiring fight isnt just neccesarily about how many times your hit. It can be how hard Floyd had to work to keep Ortiz off of him. Or because FLoyd was more offensive than usual he may have tired a bit earlier than usual as he usually only jabs. I mean hitting the heavy bag tires you out after a while.

        Originally posted by -Antonio-
        The more I watch the fight the more I believe this. There's no way we'll know for sure whether Floyd was getting frustrated or not because the fight was too short. What we do know is Vic was walking through Floyd's shots and starting to land in the 4th.
        True, victors a strong dude and hed be in floyds face for 12 rounds. He was a lot more live an oponent than Floyd has had for a while.

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          #24
          Originally posted by -Antonio-
          The more I watch the fight the more I believe this. There's no way we'll know for sure whether Floyd was getting frustrated or not because the fight was too short. What we do know is Vic was walking through Floyd's shots and starting to land in the 4th.
          IDK where you guys get this stuff from. Floyd just totally outclassed Ortiz in the 3rd and you could clearly see he was discouraged. In the 4th Floyd was dominating even more. Ortiz had a brief flurry, followed by Floyd again outclassing him until the very end where Ortiz had another flurry. NO punches even hardly landed in those flurries by Ortiz and the one's that did land were on the arms. Floyd was highly confident.

          He was landing at will, walking Ortiz down, and breaking him down. Ortiz wasnt walking through his punches. People listen to Steward too much. His eye was about to be closed shut and Ortiz completely backed off at the end of the 3rd and Floyd had him on the move for much of the 4th. You dont do that if you arent effected by the shots. Most media who even hate Floyd thinks that he was going to stop him in the next few rounds

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            #25
            No way. Floyd was so supremely confident he was choosing to come forward and engage at will. A few more rounds and he would have made Ortiz into his little hand puppet. Hatton had way more success against Floyd and we saw how that played out.

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            • -Antonio-
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              #26
              Originally posted by DLT
              IDK where you guys get this stuff from. Floyd just totally outclassed Ortiz in the 3rd and you could clearly see he was discouraged. In the 4th Floyd was dominating even more. Ortiz had a brief flurry, followed by Floyd again outclassing him until the very end where Ortiz had another flurry. NO punches even hardly landed in those flurries by Ortiz and the one's that did land were on the arms. Floyd was highly confident.

              He was landing at will, walking Ortiz down, and breaking him down. Ortiz wasnt walking through his punches. People listen to Steward too much. His eye was about to be closed shut and Ortiz completely backed off at the end of the 3rd and Floyd had him on the move for much of the 4th. You dont do that if you arent effected by the shots. Most media who even hate Floyd thinks that he was going to stop him in the next few rounds
              Nothing told me Vic was close to going away. I saw him being outclassed in the third round, not any other round. The fourth round was back and forth. You can't tell me that last flurry Ortiz threw didn't land. I see it land with my own eyes. He also landed that clean right hook while Floyd tried to sidestep by the ropes.

              I could see Floyd start to land the check hook and uppercut, and i'm sure that would have continued in the 5th. What we don't know is how Vic would have responded. Maybe his chin would have held up. Maybe his eye would have stayed open enough for him to have a couple more moments. That's why the ending ******.

              btw do you think Floyd can beat Sergio? I do not. Only guy I'd favor over him.

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                #27
                Originally posted by -Antonio-
                Nothing told me Vic was close to going away. I saw him being outclassed in the third round, not any other round. The fourth round was back and forth. You can't tell me that last flurry Ortiz threw didn't land. I see it land with my own eyes. He also landed that clean right hook while Floyd tried to sidestep by the ropes.

                I could see Floyd start to land the check hook and uppercut, and i'm sure that would have continued in the 5th. What we don't know is how Vic would have responded. Maybe his chin would have held up. Maybe his eye would have stayed open enough for him to have a couple more moments. That's why the ending ******.

                btw do you think Floyd can beat Sergio? I do not. Only guy I'd favor over him.
                yes I do think Floyd would beat Sergio. I use to always say that Sergio would be the easiest fight for Floyd out of all the elite guys. I wont go that far anymore but I still think Floyd wins. My #1 reasoning for me having always thinkinking that Floyd would win is the fact that Sergio keeps his hands down all the time. I just cant see anyone who keeps there hands down beating Floyd.

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                  #28
                  Khan at this point is an over rated hype job , it shows how gullible the TS is when he only jumps on Khan because he comes from the UK , now that is a losers mentality , Khan would need to step it up 3 fold to even get a fight with Floyd and 10 fold to have a chance of winning .

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by rajul
                    mayweahter knows roach has the formula for beating him

                    i mean amir khan just accepted 1) the blood test
                    2) fighting vargas

                    mayweather is now completely ducking the khan topic completely

                    the blood test was only ever for pacaquiao because they knew
                    he came in weaker because of it.

                    it shows mayweather isnt that confident. if he was he could beat
                    pacquiao on a level playing field but he wants his opponents
                    to come in at less than their best ...
                    damn. roach has been working on that formula for nearly 3 years and its still fail. haha

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                    • Larry the boss
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                      #30
                      lol..................

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