jose luis castillo vs zab judah at 147

[masterdirector]

Very questionable still.If castillo can bring his power and chin to 147 then this will be the case.It has to be seen first.Although a while back in between big fights Castillo fought a natural 147 pounder and koed him in 2 but the guy was a 0 compared to Zab.

yeah seems like Castillo fought 2 fights at 147, though I'm not positive. I know he destroyed one guy for sure like you said.

That just backs up my point that Castillo has been draining himself to make 135 for years. All fighters should fight at a weight really close to what they walk around at. It'd be a lot safer.

[masterdirector]

You dont know this!!!!!!!!!

Zab has not been in the ring with a dangerous puncher since KT and after about 2 minutes of that first round (which Zab dominated) he got touched up a bit and basically didnt throw a meaningful punch the rest of the fight!

Sure Zab doesnt run against Corey Spinks or Rafeal Pineda or Corely or some of the other tomato cans he has fought but I promise you if he fought Zoo again he would not be fighting in the pocket. If he fought a Mrgarito he would be trying to box his ass off and stay away...not stand and fight.

We dont know if Zab can take a shot...the only tinhg we have to go off of is his thrashing at the hands of Zoo...Im willing to give him a second chance for sure but he has not been really hit hard since that fight...he will get hit hard eventually and I cant wait to see how he reacts!

He could stand in the pocket with Zoo or Margarito, absolutely he could. He was dropped by Zoo but not knocked out, that's for sure. He was up and ready to go, it was a bad stoppage. Cory Spinks and Corley are suddenly tomato cans huh? Why? Because you hate Judah and since he beat them they must be? Come on man. That's called pure hatred.

[scap]

He could stand in the pocket with Zoo or Margarito, absolutely he could. He was dropped by Zoo but not knocked out, that's for sure. He was up and ready to go, it was a bad stoppage. Cory Spinks and Corley are suddenly tomato cans huh? Why? Because you hate Judah and since he beat them they must be? Come on man. That's called pure hatred.

Let me clarify Master...Corely and Spinks are not tomato cans..but guys like Pineda and Rangel are...

I will say that Spinks was a pretty bad unified champ...as bad as I have ever seen while foloowing the sport.

Again you dont know what Zab is made of...nobody does( if you do give me an example and you will need more than him just gettingup against Zoo)...we have to wait and see and if he fights Zoo again or fights MArgarito we will definately see what he is made of!

Give me an example of when Zab has shown his heart/guts/chin? If you say Jan Bergman or Terron Millet Im gonna laugh...just warning you!

[{BrownBomber}]

yeah seems like Castillo fought 2 fights at 147, though I'm not positive. I know he destroyed one guy for sure like you said.

That just backs up my point that Castillo has been draining himself to make 135 for years. All fighters should fight at a weight really close to what they walk around at. It'd be a lot safer.

same case for other top fighters like Hopkins. Fact it thats part of boxing now but I think if he does go to 140 he will be stronger.

[{BrownBomber}]

I agree with scap, stinks was the worst welterweight champ ive ever seen.
Zab still needs to show if he can swim in deep water and you can bet your ass that Margarito will take him out to the deep side of the pool.

Master you said that was a bad stoppage?( ZAb-Tzsyu?)

Then you must think that the second Castillo Corrales was a bad stoppage also.
Zab jumped up but was just as hurt as Corrales was.Matter a fact Corrales looked calm and collected.He was complaining just like Zab was after 20 seconds of recovering.He was just held back by goosen who probably told him to stfu you got kntf.

[Zab Super Judah]

who wins? i think it would be a good fight. zab can't knock out castillo no way (zabs power is very overated, who has he knocked out spinx? lol)although i think he could outbox castillo. but i would take castillo by decision. he'll rush zab all nite, maybe even drop him a couple times. just tooo much for judah.

judahs power is not overrated. Its the fact that people dont see his left hands that cause all the harm. If castillo looks good at 140 he would ahve a great shot at beating judah at 147 though. I promise you JUDAH CAN hurt castillo though

[masterdirector]

I agree with scap, stinks was the worst welterweight champ ive ever seen.
Zab still needs to show if he can swim in deep water and you can bet your ass that Margarito will take him out to the deep side of the pool.

Master you said that was a bad stoppage?( ZAb-Tzsyu?)

Then you must think that the second Castillo Corrales was a bad stoppage also.
Zab jumped up but was just as hurt as Corrales was.Matter a fact Corrales looked calm and collected.He was complaining just like Zab was after 20 seconds of recovering.He was just held back by goosen who probably told him to stfu you got kntf.

Whatever man, the Judah-Tszyu fight was very early, was clearly a bad stoppage.

Corrales was ****ed up. Way more hurt than Zab. And hell, I'd have been just fine if they let Corrales go on. I'm all for Corrales' career coming to an end, although I wouldn't prefer Castillo to be the one to end it.

Judah hasn't been knocked down ****ing 12 times in the last 2-3 years. Corrales has. How many times combined did Casamayor and Mayweather put him down combined? 8 times? And these are guys that aren't regarded as big hitters (cause they're not).

And did you actually watch the Judah vs. Tszyu fight? Zab was up BEFORE the count of 6 and was telling Nady he could continue. Corrales wasn't up saying he could go on by the count of 10. He got up more similarly to how Roy Jones got up in the Tarver 2 fight.

Millet was a tomato can? I hope you're not meaning that scap. Millet was thought to be one of the top 140 lb fighters when Zab fought him.

[Manny_P]

judahs power is not overrated. Its the fact that people dont see his left hands that cause all the harm. If castillo looks good at 140 he would ahve a great shot at beating judah at 147 though. I promise you JUDAH CAN hurt castillo though

damn, I know yer Hop avatar is supoosed to be gangsta, but I find it funny. It's like Hopkins tryin to sniff all remains of fried bacon scent o sum shyt.

[{BrownBomber}]

And did you actually watch the Judah vs. Tszyu fight? Zab was up BEFORE the count of 6 and was telling Nady he could continue.

He sure was up by 5 or 6, but it looked he was asking him if he wanted to go to the prom with him also.When Nady said no Zab proceeded to choke him.I guess he cant stand to get rejected. Nothing to get mad about bud, we are just pointing out our opinions.

[Tha Greatest]

I will not respect Judah until he fights Margarito.