I can't see how Manny could get off against Floyd

[V.WEBB]

So much better and effective that he can't properly cutting off the ring without resetting his movement.

Hilarious isn't it?

[Carpe Diem]

I would say by 2.5%.

Did Shane run from Floyd, he did from Pacquiao.
Pacquiao walked through Cotto's shots, Floyd was stunned by Mosley.
Hatton was frustrated exhausted mess when Floyd KOed him. When Pacquiao did it he was fresh but the results were far more devastating.
Footwork much quick and very effective, one of the main reasons why he can create the angles to throw his punches from. Baldomir much more sluggish and flat footed but not even close to Pacquiao's work rate.

Floyd does have the better defense and has the edge on counters and better body movement, but thats it.

Where's your proof that Manny is a more accurate puncher than Floyd?

[bojangles1987]

Roach would have to earn his money in this fight, because there are two punches Floyd can kill Pacquiao with that Roach HAS to have Pac prepared for, the straight right and the jab to the body.

If Pacquiao isn't fully prepared for those punches, when Floyd likes to throw them, what to do when he does, how to make him think twice about throwing them, then his job will be incredibly difficult. Those are the two money punches Pacquiao shows a ton of weakness against that Mayweather is very good with.

[V.WEBB]

Where's your proof that Manny is a more accurate puncher than Floyd?

You don't remember that thread (I know you do)?

[D4thincarnation]

You keep digging a bigger hole in your credibility and knowledge, dude. If you don't like Mayweather or if you're not a fan cool. That's fine and dandy. But don't allow that to cloud your judgement when debating the skills of fighters. At least be realistic.

It is the way I see it.

Roach and Manny will sit down and come up for a counter for the straight right, set traps for Floyd to throw it then counter it.

In a fire fight there is only going to be one winner, and Floyd's ego might bring him it that fight.

He is going to want to fire back and Pacquiao will love that.

[Carpe Diem]

You don't remember that thread (I know you do)?

[THE REED]

I would say by 2.5%.

2.5%?

Did Shane run from Floyd, he did from Pacquiao.

And if that showed anything... it shows how easily frustrated Pacquiao can become when someone gives him movement, also in the last few rounds against Cotto, when he seemingly just didn't know what to do.

As if cutting the ring off has never even been taught to him.

Pacquiao walked through Cotto's shots, Floyd was stunned by Mosley.

Well first of all... Mosley is a bigger puncher than Cotto.

Second of all... if Mosley landed the same punch on Pacquiao that he did Floyd, it would most likely have about the same result if not worse.

At least against Floyd, Mosley was willing to exchange for the first two rounds... he wasn't willing to exchange at all with Pacquiao.. so comparing these two fights is irrelevent. They're two different fighters with two different styles.

Hatton was frustrated exhausted mess when Floyd KOed him. When Pacquiao did it he was fresh but the results were far more devastating.

He was also undefeated, full of confidence, and had his original corner working that fight. Against Pacquiao, he had been beaten, and was seemingly working with someone who we found out later... did not match up well at all. There was not good chemistry between Sr. and Hatton.

Footwork much quick and very effective, one of the main reasons why he can create the angles to throw his punches from. Baldomir much more sluggish and flat footed but not even close to Pacquiao's work rate.

Such great footwork he can't even cut off the ring.

What does Baldomir have to do with anything? That **** was 5 years ago.

Floyd does have the better defense and has the edge on counters and better body movement, but thats it.

As well as the ability to adapt and adjust in real time.

But, these are not small notches on a belt.

Defense, counter punching, and adaptability can seemingly be so much more important than speed or power.

[D4thincarnation]

The punch Manny is most vunerable to is the uppercut and Floyd doesn't throw many of those.

[V.WEBB]

It is the way I see it.

Roach and Manny will sit down and come up for a counter for the straight right, set traps for Floyd to throw it then counter it.

In a fire fight there is only going to be one winner, and Floyd's ego might bring him it that fight.

He is going to want to fire back and Pacquiao will love that.

The next logical question is, what are you looking at?

Like that is a serious question. Because when you said that Floyd Mayweather Jr has one punch, that's laughable. But what's more laughable is his "only punch" in your opinion is one that Manny can't avoid.

[THE REED]

The punch Manny is most vunerable to is the uppercut and Floyd doesn't throw many of those.

Actually it's the straight right hand.

Which Joshua Clottey seemingly proved over and over.

He barely through a punch, but when he did... it was a straight right hand... and it always landed.