I can't see how Manny could get off against Floyd

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #201
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
    Oh he won't run and not fire.

    He will MOVE... and fire.

    They just ran.

    Two different things.

    One of them worked, they needed to apply BOTH.
    Exactly.

    Which of course, has alot to do with that fact those fighters are literally incapable of doing that.

    Unlike, Mr. Mayweather.

    Just throwing that out there guys.

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    • Mitch5
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      #202
      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
      So you think he will pot shot and move, that won't work, the jab will be blocked and counter, and Manny can avoid the straight right with simple steping to the right.

      Manny will fire the jab, feint it an throw the right hook.

      Floyd will be too slow to counter Pacquiao, as he was against Judah.
      really now?

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        #203
        Originally posted by D4thincarnation
        So you think he will pot shot and move
        It's an option.

        Movement will work against Pacquiao.. as will pot shotting.

        that won't work, the jab will be blocked and counter
        Manny has had his head snapped back from plenty of jabs his entire career... Am I now to believe the single most accurate puncher in the game is just going to have every jab he throws be blocked... by Manny Pacquiao?

        and Manny can avoid the straight right with simple steping to the right.
        Manny avoiding the right hand is an oxymoron... this sentence right here is utter trash.

        He can avoid the right hand? Floyds right hand? With a simple movement? A movement he generally doesn't do to avoid anyone elses right hand?

        Sure.

        Manny will fire the jab, feint it an throw the right hook.
        So Floyd can't land his jab because of Mannys genius defense... but Manny will land his on Floyd because Floyd obviously lacks in that department.

        Floyd will be too slow to counter Pacquiao, as he was against Judah.
        He wasn't too slow to counter Judah.. matter of fact that's what stopped Judah's success after Mayweather adjusted in that fight.

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          #204
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          Unlike Ortiz as well Pacquiao can throw straight shots, Ortiz punches very wide very telegraphed, surprised he landed as many as he did against Mayweather.

          Pacquiao straight left will give Mayweather huge problems, not sure how Floyd deals with it.
          Yet somehow in your little world... Pac will simply "side step" Floyds right hand... no prob.

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            #205
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Oh, I wasn't saying you were. You have misinterpreted my post.

            I was actually just re-iterating your point about Clottey.

            And adding to it the fact that his fight with Clottey as a whole (easy win) will not compare to when he fights Mayweather.

            That's all.
            Fair enough.....

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              #206
              Originally posted by Chopper417
              Both Ortiz and Mosley have bigger one punch power than Pac at WW. Pac's one punch knockout power is RIDICULOUSLY overrated. Outside of Hatton I really can't think of a one punch KO Pac has had in the last 5-6 years.
              I don't recall alot of one punch KO's from Shane or Ortiz either.

              I have, however, seen more one punch shots from Manny that have changed fights than from Ortiz and Mosley combined.

              Now I can see an argument of Shane being a bigger one punch KO artist than Manny but definately not Ortiz.

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                #207
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                Unlike Ortiz as well Pacquiao can throw straight shots, Ortiz punches very wide very telegraphed, surprised he landed as many as he did against Mayweather.

                Pacquiao straight left will give Mayweather huge problems, not sure how Floyd deals with it.
                How will manny deal with floyds straight right? and you do realize that the punch that ortiz was somewhat landing was the right hook?

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss



                  He wasn't too slow to counter Judah.. matter of fact that's what stopped Judah's success after Mayweather adjusted in that fight.
                  Yes he was.

                  Floyd was told what to do by Uncle Roger, who told him he couldn't wait on the guy to throw and had to take the fight to him and throw first.

                  The lead right was Floyds adjustment and he backed Judah up with it.

                  When Floyd was waiting for Judah to throw he could not counter him because of his speed, he will have the same problem with Pacquiao.

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                    #209
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    So you think he will pot shot and move, that won't work, the jab will be blocked and counter, and Manny can avoid the straight right with simple steping to the right.

                    Manny will fire the jab, feint it an throw the right hook.

                    Floyd will be too slow to counter Pacquiao, as he was against Judah.
                    WOW. Since when did Manny became such an elusive Boxer?

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                      #210
                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                      Yes he was.

                      Floyd was told what to do by Uncle Roger, who told him he couldn't wait on the guy to throw and had to take the fight to him and throw first.

                      The lead right was Floyds adjustment and he backed Judah up with it.

                      When Floyd was waiting for Judah to throw he could not counter him because of his speed, he will have the same problem with Pacquiao.
                      He countered Judah plenty of times in that fight.

                      That fight was also FIVE YEARS AGO.

                      Other than being southpaw with quick hands, they fight nothing alike.

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