Could Ortiz Beat Cotto, Margarito or Clottey?

[Rassclot]

I disagree...Clottey maxes out the visa 'heart' credit at the 10th round and can't afford any more heart.

I think Ortiz out toughens him in the championship rounds like Cotto did.

you don't understand Victor can't push Clottey back. Clottey is a TANK.


He went all 12 rounds against Berto because Berto is smaller and weaker. he also KDed berto multiple times. He won't KD Clottey. After a couple of head shakes just like Mayweather gave him...... his heart is going to be gone.



Victor straight up quits. Clottey has never quit. he just gets inactive at times.




after a couple of these




Victor would submit.

[Phenom]

Coincidentally beaten up by the one guy a certain 'star' doesn't want to fight. I wouldn't want to fight him either, **** looking deformed eh?!

smh

Berto/Ortiz/Clottey are about the same level. None of them three achieved what Cotto and Margarito has. Stop being upset because Floyd retired instead of fighting them bro. The world ain't mad anymore about it

what has Margarito and Cotto achieve exactly? aside from being "ducked" by Floyd?

[JmH Reborn]

read what I said they are all at about the same level none of the are elite/great

at beating the undefeated and #2 ranked Berto being equivalent to Cotto beating Torres

Berto's best win is against a guy Cotto KOd in his prime in like 5 rounds. Berto is ranked #2 because Floyd was retired, Cotto moved up, Shane is 100 yrs old, Margarito moved up, Cintron moved up, PWill moved up

Essentially, Berto was the best of the rest. Not endorsing and he lost to a guy who fought at WW, moving up, coming off a beatdown, a few crappy wins and a draw against a nobody. Why you mad son?

[Russian Crushin]

read what I said they are all at about the same level none of the are elite/great

at beating the undefeated and #2 ranked Berto being equivalent to Cotto beating Torres

Berto was #2 because all the other good WW's beat eachother up or moved up. When you beat a Freddy Hernandez and move up in the rankings and Zaveck is #3 behind you, theres a little problem.

So Ortiz goes from #9 JWW to #2 WW by beating berto and he's better then Cotto or Marg ever were

Ok pumpkin

[Rassclot]

Berto is a Collazo level fighter. Complete hypejob.

[-DSG-]

cotto kos ortiz easily

[Heeb]

Not when they were welterweights.@ 147 Now? I'd give him a solid chance against any of them.

[JmH Reborn]

what has Margarito and Cotto achieve exactly? aside from being "ducked" by Floyd?

They were long time belt holders at the WW and beat all in front of them. Cotto has won titles in 3 divisions and Margs had I believe like 7 or 8 defenses. They were both considered the very best at WW at one point and they fought eachother. I know, a novel idea.

Why you angry man that an Al Haymon project failed?

[Too_Slick]

The Ortiz that showed up vs Berto and Mayweather Ko's Cotto in 8, UD's or possible KO Margacheato, and UD's Clottey.

[Rassclot]

The Ortiz that showed up vs Berto and Mayweather Ko's Cotto in 8, UD's or possible KO Margacheato, and UD's Clottey.

you mean the berto that got beat by Collazo?



That berto is some ATG level win yo foreal.