Great boxers do not need to resort to using sucker punches

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  • Mohammedini
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    #31
    Originally posted by Freedom.
    You're wrong about Greb and Dempsey, but there's truth in what you said about the ex-convict Hopkins.
    Orly? HArry Greb was unbelieveble dirty, Ten times dirtier then B-Hop
    Harry Greb: Long before Mike Tyson thought about taking a chunk out of Evander Holyfield’s ear in their infamous rematch, Harry Greb had turned “the bite” into an art form. He could do it without getting caught and disqualified too! Like Zivic, going into a clinch with Harry Greb was basically taking your life into your own hands. Elbows, thumbs, knees, backhands, the dragging of the glove laces across the face – these were all part of the Greb arsenal. A New York Paper wrote, “He has two active hands that fly around in all sorts of weird motions, but the top of his head is his most dangerous weapon. If the rules of boxing were strictly enforced, Greg wouldn’t last a round before being disqualified.”

    As the Middleweight champion, he challenged Gene Tunney for Tunney’s American Light Heavyweight title. For Tunney, it was an education in street fighting like he’d never had before. In the first round, Greb rammed his head into Tunney’s face, breaking his nose.
    source: http://theboxingmagazine.com/2010/05...iest-fighters/

    Jack Dempsey was incredible dirty.
    From a tread about Jack being Dirty:
    low blows(Sharkey)
    pulling a foe down(Firpo and NO that was not a knockdown lol)
    Kidney punchings(Gibbions)
    Head butting(Tunney in fight II)
    And his most often tactic, the all mighty rabbit punch, may lord have mercy on them when hit by a rabbit punch. (Gibbions, Tunney 1 and 2, and I belive Sharkey)

    Oh yeah and hitting a foe when they are tied up in the ropes, (Gibbions)
    And about his book were he teaches "dirty shots"
    The best thing about these books are the little tricks they throw in that are valuable for advanced fighters. They casually mention weakpoints of certain builds, styles, and dirty shots you can use in and outside of the ring
    But that doesn't fit your agenda.
    We all know how your world view is.
    The 2 of the 3 ATG can not be Dirty.
    It is impossible for those pure, clean, honorable people to be dirty according to your world view.
    But the "******" ex-convict "thug" is absolutely dirty.
    Tunney time and time again you embarrass yourself.
    So see through even a blind man can see the wall behind you
    Last edited by Mohammedini; 09-19-2011, 10:55 AM.

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    • -ELO-
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      #32
      Originally posted by iLovesoccermoms
      the ref said "lets go" and signalled his hands together to fight

      ortiz then walked up to floyd and continued to hug him for some reason

      Ortiz didnt even attempt to defend himself after the 1st shot

      referee was ******* off the time keeper during all of this

      im not so sure how much of a sucker punch this is to be honest..

      when i heard the ref and then saw him signal the fighters that changed my opinion for floyd being a sucker puncher in this particular fight..


      the only ones hating on floyd are those who didnt watch the video or those who DID watch the vid but still dont care and only wanna crap on pbf cause thats the thing to do

      i dunno if thats fair treatment guys..
      The ref said time but he never said time in and was looking away.....mayweather pretended to embrace and proceeded to sucker punch him. The clock was still stopped when it all went down so how is that even legal?

      I cannot see how any mayweather fan be proud of that "win". He is the scum of the sport and only ****** monkeys like him will support this classless behavior, I'm beginning to think that 90% of NSB posters are either black or wannabe black.

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      • gqjohnb
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        #33
        Honestly I expected more of real fight fans on this site. SMH... Floyd's a dirty fighter for hitting the guy in front of him. PYAAT! That left hook was quick as hell though wasn't it?

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        • gqjohnb
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          #34
          Originally posted by -ELO-
          The ref said time but he never said time in and was looking away.....mayweather pretended to embrace and proceeded to sucker punch him. The clock was still stopped when it all went down so how is that even legal?

          I cannot see how any mayweather fan be proud of that "win". He is the scum of the sport and only ****** monkeys like him will support this classless behavior, I'm beginning to think that 90% of NSB posters are either black or wannabe black.
          Definitely blame Ortiz for not protecting himself, maybe blame the ref for not being clear but blame floyd for punching the guy standing in front of him in a boxing match? I just can't understand that.

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          • gqjohnb
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            #35
            Originally posted by -ELO-
            The ref said time but he never said time in and was looking away.....mayweather pretended to embrace and proceeded to sucker punch him. The clock was still stopped when it all went down so how is that even legal?

            I cannot see how any mayweather fan be proud of that "win". He is the scum of the sport and only ****** monkeys like him will support this classless behavior, I'm beginning to think that 90% of NSB posters are either black or wannabe black.
            I'm really salty about the way the fight ended to be honest. Very disappointed in Ortiz but floyd did what he was supposed to do. The fighters touched gloves 3 times he hugged floyd kissed him on the cheak(WTF??!?) and the ref brought them to the middle of the ring it was go time. Ortiz being a World Champion should know better.

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            • Pin Galarga
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              #36
              Sucker Punch??

              More like Punching the Sucker.

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              • gqjohnb
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                #37
                Originally posted by -ELO-
                The ref said time but he never said time in and was looking away.....mayweather pretended to embrace and proceeded to sucker punch him. The clock was still stopped when it all went down so how is that even legal?

                I cannot see how any mayweather fan be proud of that "win". He is the scum of the sport and only ****** monkeys like him will support this classless behavior, I'm beginning to think that 90% of NSB posters are either black or wannabe black.
                And your racist which explains your lack of objectivity.

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                • junior gong
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                  #38
                  Ortiz was a ****ing idiot for doing what he did, but how anyone can think that what floyd did was perfectly ok is beyond comprehension. You would have to be a ***** to think that there was nothing at all wrong with that.

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                  • KingTito
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                    #39
                    Honestly, the fight shouldn't have ended that way. Floyd was winning. I lost a lot of respect for him.

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                    • tatangb45
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by johnm
                      Exactly. He tried to fight dirty, and he got himself fucked up for it. 100% of the blame belongs to Ortiz.
                      It's the job of the ref to deduct a point or to disqualify a fighter if he persists in using illegal tactics. It does not give Floyd the right to sucker punch his opponent. Btw, this is not the first time he has done this.
                      With his supposed skills he should have simply schooled and humiliated that mismatched 7 to 1 underdog. There's no denying that what he did instead was disgraceful and an act of cowardice.

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