Floyd so desperate for a KO, and that was his only option!

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  • bdevils
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    #21
    Originally posted by Medved
    *****'s dont know what class means, they think that if you rob someone of their wallet and say sorry that means its okay.

    What Ortiz did was wrong, but the headbutt NEVER LANDED and he got a point taken away. But I guess Floyd is allowed to sucker punch someone when the ref is turned away and the fighter has his hands down/looking away?

    I guess I can beat Floyd's kids and his new girl, cuz he did it, so that means I can do it right? 2 Wrongs = Rightt!!!

    ***** math haha,

    2 Wrongs = Right
    Classic!! Your the biggest ****ing Idiot!!

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      #22
      Originally posted by SkillspayBills
      What Ortiz did was ILLEGAL, what Floyd did was LEGAL. Yet Floyd gets the ****storm? Interesting.
      You didn't expect anything else did you? Floyd will always get the hate!!

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      • 4Corners
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        #23
        Originally posted by p4p-champ
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        - Ortiz was dirty the whole fight, with consistent and blatant headbutts
        - Cortez called "Let Go!" and motioned for the fighters to continue fighting after deducting a point from Ortiz
        - Ortiz decide to attempt a make-out session with Floyd instead of fighting.

        Game, Set, Match.

        "If you make a mistake; you have to pay"
        Thank you! Was I the only one who constantly saw Ortiz lean forward with his head all night up until that point??? You wanna intentionally jump up and headbutt someone in the mouth, expect that s**t to happen. Ortiz headbutted him and than tried to kiss Mayweather on the cheek like a punk. Than, after all that, he tries to apologize. They touch gloves and back away, while Mayweather hits him with a left hook and stright right. I honestly don't think Floyd wanted to knock him out there. Im sorry, I don't. When Mosley tried to grapple Floyd and throw him to the floor, they touches gloves and he hit Mosley with a small combination when they backed away. I think it was to get Mosley's attention that if you're trying to do some illegal crap like that. I will clock you for it. Only difference was, that Mosley was smart enough to know when you touch gloves and back away, the fight is on. Ortiz touhced gloves and backed away, and right when Floyd is throwing, Ortiz looks away.

        Bottom line....mayweather was wiining the fight easily and convincingly. He had out landed Ortiz by like 50 something punches up until that point.

        My only wish would have been that Ortiz was paying attention instead of being in a daze for soem damn reason. That would have been much better, because the first 3-4 rounds were suppose to be ring rust rounds for Floyd and when he's just warming up, and the first half of the fight is when Ortiz is at his best. I just wish we could have seent he second half so Mayweather could have really taxed that a$$.

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        • Main Source
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          #24
          Originally posted by 4CornersKid
          I know. I love all these people saying Mayweather was losing the fight at that point. This would have been COMPLETELY one sided if all that s**t in the 4th didn't happen. History shows that if Floyd struggles in a fight, especially against a Southpaw, its in the first 3-4 rounds. Floyd won the first three rounds. He had out landed Ortiz something like 78-27 and connected at something like 35% to Ortiz' 16% or something. Victor was clearly out classed, and its sad that we didn't get to see it be even more evident if the fight had gone on. Mayweather was more active in this fight. He threw like 200 somehting punches through 4 rounds, more active than in his previous fights. MAYWEATHER WAS NOT LOSING THE FIGHT. Anyone saying that, don't kid yourself, because you're full of complete s**t if yout hink that.

          I think what Dan Rafael said was right. Ortiz got clearly frustrated at the end of round 4, when he had Floyd ont he ropes, but only landed like 2 or 3 clean shots, while throwing many more. And he CLEARLY intentionally headbutted Floyd in the mouth and made Floyd bleed in his mouth. Cortez walked over the judges and told them to deduct to point, while Ortiz went over to Mayweather and "kissed" him on the cheek like a punk.Then, Ortiz wants to apologize for it, and they touch gloves and back away. Than, Mayweather clocks him with a left hook and straight right, sending him down. Victor Ortiz got what the f**k he deserved. Floyd had done NOTHING illegal or even questionable until Ortiz clearly headbutted him in the mouth. You want to say Mayweather was illegal in the punches, even Ortiz said it wasn't. Floyd looked like the same old Floyd, and was never really even hurt by Ortiz. I was actually impressed by how well Mayweather looked in the first 4 rounds (when ring rust was suppose to show).

          Bottom line...you wanna headbutt someone in the mouth, expect them to be savvy and cleck you. They touched gloves and both baclked away, the fight is on! I'm only upset that we didn't get to see Mayweather beat down Ortiz in the second half of the fight, when he actually turns it on usually.

          If Ortiz wants a rematch, he can get a rematch. Mayweather will give you an immediate rematch if it makes sense. He won't wait 4 years, 3 1/2 years, and 4 years to give someone a rematch....like good ol' Pacman.

          This fight only re-enforced that I think Mayweather fairs a good shot against Pacquiao. He was hitting Ortiz counters and straight rights all night. Yeah, Ortiz got him on the ropes for about 20 seconds in a couple rounds, but did not do much damage at all, and actually didn't land much at all. Mayweather landed like 80 punches through round 4, on a guy that was suppose to give him all the problems in the world. He looked good for your first fight back at 34. You guys gotta admit it.
          Spot on.

          The most impressive thing though was how Floyd was stepping up and had Ortiz moving back. Floyd was fighting and bringing it to a strong and fast middleweight!

          Worst part of the fight? The commentating. I'm sick and tired of Jim Lampley and to some degree, Emanuel Steward. While there's a fight going on, Ortiz head butting, Mayweather landing clean shots and Ortiz missing his punches, they start to talk about something completely else. **** that.

          I prefer Sky's team over this (un)dynamic duo anyday.

          Merchant actually gave Floyd a lot of praise before the post fight interview, and suddenly turned 180.
          Last edited by Main Source; 09-18-2011, 09:56 AM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            Floyd has promised ko's so many times and let people down. He knew he couldnt this time and the only way he was ever going to get the ko was this way.

            Look at the slo mo replay. Cortez isnt looking at the fighters, Floyd takes a quick glance at Cortez and can see he isnt looking, then fires the left hook at Ortiz. Floyd sees Cortez still isnt looking at the action and also sees Ortiz look at Cortez for intervention, and then throws his straight right.

            Everything about that finish is just plain wrong, makes me feel queasy looking at it and every uncomfortable. Ortiz looks like he was mugged in broad daylight and people turning a blind eye to it.
            Didn't he KO your idol, Ricky Hatton?

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              #26
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              Floyd has promised ko's so many times and let people down. He knew he couldnt this time and the only way he was ever going to get the ko was this way..
              I doubt it. He was angry and wanted to get his own back - kind of like Eubank in the Dan Sherry fight and Mayweather in the Mosley fight.

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              • hugh grant
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                #27
                Originally posted by Trapped Bird
                Didn't he KO your idol, Ricky Hatton?
                Floyd did illegal things all night against hatton, as did Cortez. Yet Hatton didnt resort to punching Floyd when the ref wasnt looking or when Floyd wanted to touch gloves and hug.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Main Source

                  I prefer Sky's team over this (un)dynamic duo anyday.
                  Same here. A lot of the fights seem a whole lot better on Sky.

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                  • 4Corners
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Main Source
                    Spot on.

                    The most impressive thing though was how Floyd was stepping up and had Ortiz moving back. Floyd was fighting and bringing it to a strong and fast middleweight!

                    Worst part of the fight? The commentating. I'm sick and tired of Jim Lampley and to some degree, Emanuel Steward. While there's a fight going on, Ortiz head butting, Mayweather landing clean shots and Ortiz missing his punches, they start to talk about something completely else. **** that.

                    I prefer Sky's team over this (un)dynamic duo anyday.

                    Merchant actually gave Floyd a lot of praise before the post fight interview, and suddenly turned 180.
                    Thank you! They sai dOrtiz won the second round. Mayweather STILL out landed him in power shots 13-8 in the 2nd, Ortiz's best round, and landed over 20 punches in the round. Jim Lampley is a punk. I wouldn't have went at Merchant the way Floyd did. But, Floyd is right to a certain extent. They NEVER give him the credit due in the ring. He was out landing Ortiz clearly throughout the fight, and they didn't say anything about it. Then, when Ortiz gets Floyd on the ropes for about 10 seconds, they start yelling, "Oh and there goes Victor Ortiz pounding on Floyd". Its almost comical.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      Floyd did illegal things all night against hatton, as did Cortez. Yet Hatton didnt resort to punching Floyd when the ref wasnt looking or when Floyd wanted to touch gloves and hug.
                      No Hatton just resorted to stumbling to the canvas after getting hit by the hardest puncher of all time, Floyd Mayweather.

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