Damn! 24/7 had me wondering if Floyd had started to slow down but if he has it obviously isn't by much. That was an awesome video and shows why the man is so ****ing good. If Floyd's legs don't let him down I see this being a total wash after about round 3.
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Originally posted by NEELZ View PostThe only cautionary note I would sound, from a non-Floyd fan, is that the pad work with Uncle Roger is beautiful choreography and nobody does that better. But it is like a dance routine that two partners have performed a 1,000 times. Uncle Roger knows his movements and does his best to make his nephew look great.
In a real fight the opponent is attacking and not holding mitts and respecting Floyd. Not moving in a well-rehearsed way. In the real fights, Floyd throws one or two or at the most three punches before returning to defense. His punches are not as free-flowing as pad work.
I don't question if Floyd still has good reflexes or boxing skills. I wonder whether after the fight gets into middle rounds and it becomes rough and Floyd isn't doing all the punching, but also doing some of the taking, will he show signs of slippage and age then?
EXCELLENT POST!!!!! I have been saying this forever!!!! I have seen him do this exact same routine form years. He's been doing it his whole career, and to someone seeing this for ther first time it would look extremely impressive.
This has been mastered after years and years of repitition and there is nothing new in that routine ever. They know each other very well, and they both should be good at it after this long.
You are right as well about Floyd not throwing pinches this fluidly in a fight. He throws one punch at a time. This is a well choreographed routine mastered over time.
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Originally posted by jai mari078 View PostEXCELLENT POST!!!!! I have been saying this forever!!!! I have seen him do this exact same routine form years. He's been doing it his whole career, and to someone seeing this for ther first time it would look extremely impressive.
This has been mastered after years and years of repitition and there is nothing new in that routine ever. They know each other very well, and they both should be good at it after this long.
You are right as well about Floyd not throwing pinches this fluidly in a fight. He throws one punch at a time. This is a well choreographed routine mastered over time.
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Originally posted by davis828 View PostIt's pad work specifically designed for counter-punching. It's not the same routine and it's not choreography. As a matter of fact, there numerous vids of them doing mitt work where they mess up.
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From Kieran Mulvaney's blog;
LAS VEGAS -- As often as Floyd Mayweather Jr. has taken on and beaten some big names in his career -- from Genaro Hernandez to Diego Corrales to Oscar De La Hoya -- critics have continued to point to the ones that got away: Kostya Tszyu, Antonio Margarito, Miguel Cotto. All of them are, it is argued, opponents Mayweather could have taken on but chose not to.
Speaking with reporters this week, Mayweather and adviser Leonard Ellerbe placed the blame for most of those fights not occurring on Mayweather's former promoter Bob Arum, and explained their side of why a clash with Cotto in particular never took place.
"I was trying to fight these guys," Mayweather said. "I was calling all these guys out. I was asking for these guys a long time ago. If I couldn't get 'em, I couldn't get 'em."Cotto used to be at the Top Rank gym every day, according to Mayweather. ("He was a fan," said Ellerbe. "He was always very respectful.")
"The Cotto fight never happened," Mayweather said, "because Arum was like, 'De La Hoya has gone, Mayweather's done a couple fights with another promoter, I don't know if he's gonna be with me that much longer. So before I let him beat my fighter and leave, I'd rather not let that fight happen."
"We asked for that fight," Ellerbe added. "Me and Floyd both sat in Bob's office and asked for that fight when we were with him. They would never let us anywhere near him."
"No, it's not that," corrected Mayweather. "We asked for the fight and they said OK, but first they used [Henry] Bruseles -- he had the same style, from the same stable -- as a test." ("A crash dummy," in Ellerbe's description.)
"[They said] we'll see how this fight is gonna play out," Mayweather said. "They did, and they said, 'No' [after Mayweather dominated Bruseles and stopped him in the eighth round in January 2005]."
Mayweather has no beef with Cotto -- "I've got nothing but respect for what Cotto has done with his career," he said -- but bristles at the notion that he has ducked him, or any other fighter, for that matter.
Cotto has "always been Todd's personal pet project, coming up through the ranks," said Ellerbe, referring to Top Rank president Todd duBoef.
"They would never, never put Cotto nowhere near Floyd. Then, after Floyd became his own boss and he's generating all these record revenues, then all of a sudden when he wins a fight, that's when they start saying, 'Oh, he was afraid of the bogeyman.'"
"When I was with Top Rank, I was the best fighter they ever had," Mayweather said. "That's the [nonsense] Arum feeds everybody. If Arum is paying you all, please let me know. So we got Bob Arum, when I'm with him, he says, 'Ain't nobody can ever beat this fighter. He's the best I ever had.' Right? But then when I left and I become my own boss, suddenly it's, 'He's scared of Antonio Margarito.' All the fighters they say I'm scared of are Arum fighters."
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I already have money on Floyd by decision, but something about this vid makes me wanna bet more lol. Probably put something down on Floyd stopping Ortiz in rounds 11 and 12. Floyd has that look in his eye like he's going to go for the kill. Ugh, but i think Ortiz will go into survival mode, so i don't believe Floyd would be able to finish him.
This fight cannot come soon enough!
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