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  • Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
    True, but most believe that Lewis beat the best brother, and I would agree.
    That's fine and dandy. But, one is a sure fire, first ballot HOF'er with an ATG HW resumes and accomplishments, and the man of the division right now. While the other one is not.

    Lewis beat the one that's not.

    Also both brothers are stylistically different. The old cliche abut styles is always right.

    Lastly, Lewis beating Vitaly is a fact. Lewis beating Wlad is an opinion.

    Lets not confuse facts and opinions....Oops, I forgot who I was talking to.
    Last edited by jrosales13; 09-14-2011, 06:48 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Tiozzo View Post
      Egghead is a senile old man, give him a break guys.
      Yes genius, you are such an expert, likely I am, rather like Arum is. It's amazing what worms come out of the woodwork when a little truth is sprinkled on the rot.

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      • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
        That's fine and dandy. But, one is a sure fire, first ballot HOF'er with an ATG HW resumes and accomplishments, and the man of the division right now. While the other one is not.

        Lewis beat the one that's not.

        Also both brothers are stylistically different. The old cliche abut styles is always right.

        Lastly, Lewis beating Vitaly is a fact. Lewis beating Wlad is an opinion.

        Lets not confuse facts and opinions....Oops, I forgot who I was talking to.
        Actually I enjoy your letters. I like specificity.

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        • Originally posted by Mr. Invincible View Post
          Ok, so why didn't the fight get stopped exactly after the cut occured from the punch you are refering to? I assume it's the overhand right Lennox landed in the 3rd rd or so.

          The controversy exists because while the cut could have been caused by that cut or the head collision after that exchange, Lennox's arms, wrists, head and face were in contact with that cut constantly after he noticed it was there. It wasn't just follow up punches that took the cut from bad to worse, to stoppage.

          The fact that there's 14 pages of replys about the matter make the topic very much in my favor of being debatable.

          A rematch was warranted and yes while legally Lennox won the fight , Vitali got the better of him.

          And all 4 parties involved in this thing know it whether they admit it or not.
          Well, the cut was definitely caused initially by the punch. You see it spurt straight after he lands that chopping right hand. However, the rest of the stuff you're talking about? You wanna know what that's called? Let me tell you; it's called smart boxing and great tactics. He won the fight against a young, great champ when he was clearly out of shape and past his prime through experience, heart and ring savvy. It's what a great old champion does. They just win the fight.

          Who cares what might have been, because what might have been didn't actually happen. What did happen was this; Vitali lost by TKO to a great, savvy old champion at the end of his game. That's it.

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            • Originally posted by BennyST View Post
              Well, the cut was definitely caused initially by the punch. You see it spurt straight after he lands that chopping right hand. However, the rest of the stuff you're talking about? You wanna know what that's called? Let me tell you; it's called smart boxing and great tactics. He won the fight against a young, great champ when he was clearly out of shape and past his prime through experience, heart and ring savvy. It's what a great old champion does. They just win the fight.

              Who cares what might have been, because what might have been didn't actually happen. What did happen was this; Vitali lost by TKO to a great, savvy old champion at the end of his game. That's it.
              I like when people talk about the "what might have been" if that fight wasn't stopped. But, yet ignoring that the "what might have been" a career ending eye injury for Vitaly if that fight would have continued.

              I mean it was very possible. His eye would have fallen out of his socket. Lewis was tagging it up.

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              • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                I like when people talk about the "what might have been" if that fight wasn't stopped. But, yet ignoring that the "what might have been" a career ending eye injury for Vitaly if that fight would have continued.

                I mean it was very possible. His eye would have fallen out of his socket. Lewis was tagging it up.

                You know what strikes me about that fight.
                Lewis just standing in there and ****ing.

                Lewis could get down and dirty but he didn't randomly duke it up with punchers.

                Made me think, that he felt he could hurt him and not pay too much of a price when he got in.

                We always see Vit use his distance. Lewis essentially baited him into a slugfest.

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                • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                  I like when people talk about the "what might have been" if that fight wasn't stopped. But, yet ignoring that the "what might have been" a career ending eye injury for Vitaly if that fight would have continued.

                  I mean it was very possible. His eye would have fallen out of his socket. Lewis was tagging it up.
                  I just posted in about liking your "specificity". Now you're talking like the ignoramuses, (or should it be ignoramii) about nonsense like "his eye would have fallen out of the socket". I really thought that YOU would have long ago seen that there was NO damage in the close vicinity of his eye at all. That the cut was merely across his eyebrow, not even down to the bone, the ridge, and therefore, once it stopped bleeding, (by 4th rd) and wasn't swollen so as to cause vision impairment, of no importance in the fight. It never even in the brief time it was bleeding, dripped into Klitschko's eye.

                  The bruise UNDER his eye, if it had swollen-which it hadn't- and impaired his vision, would have potentially been a greater fight stopper.

                  I am disppointed....not for the first time of course, and seemingly not for the last either.

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                  • Agree with Floyd that their opponents are just too small to compete with them

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                    • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                      That's fine and dandy. But, one is a sure fire, first ballot HOF'er with an ATG HW resumes and accomplishments, and the man of the division right now. While the other one is not.

                      Lewis beat the one that's not.

                      Also both brothers are stylistically different. The old cliche abut styles is always right.

                      Lastly, Lewis beating Vitaly is a fact. Lewis beating Wlad is an opinion.

                      Lets not confuse facts and opinions....Oops, I forgot who I was talking to.
                      Smart ****, nobody stated that was a fact, see.....

                      "True, but most believe that Lewis beat the best brother, and I would agree"

                      And anyways, you refute a fact as opinion, but will not state why, so your ignorant whining barely even qualifies as opinion

                      Like I stated earlier Jro, you may-well be aware of what color shorts Wladimir was wearing when Sanders was b1tch-slapping him silly, but that does not give you a feel for this game.

                      After watching the Haye performance, if you think that Wlad could beat Vitali, then good on ya

                      Go sit in the corner and face the wall.

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