will vitali make the HOF

[MajorKong]

See here......

Don't be a smart guy. You know what I meant.

[daggum]

it's hard to put a guy into the hall when he never beats the best guy in his division(lost to lewis, won't fight wlad). that's my criteria at least. a lot of b level fighters doesn't really scream hall of fame worthy to me no matter how seemingly talented you are. even joe calzaghe beat the best guy in his division.

[Grinderman]

Tyson is ridiculously overrated.

Vitali easily destroys him, his style is all wrong for Tyson.

Yes, it wouldn't be close. Tyson would fold quickly when his usual 1st round amphetamine frenzy got him nowhere.

[LeG00N]

Tyson is ridiculously overrated.

Vitali easily destroys him, his style is all wrong for Tyson.

.....Lol

let me guess you think noone in history could beat Vitali

[Dave Rado]

Tomas Adamek: 6'1" 214 pounds

Rocky Marciano: 5'11" 188 pounds.

Vitali walks through Marciano's era, including Rocky, like a hot knife through butter. And many other eras as well.

Size isn't everything but when you use it like Vitali and combine it with great skill you have domination.

On average the human population has become 2cm taller each decade during the past century. So if those fighters had been born in Vitali's era they would have been correspondingly taller (and heavier) than they were. A fair comparison of ability would have to take that into account.

Jesse Owens is generally regarded as one of the greatest athletes of all time despite the fact that even novices nowadays run far faster times than he did. That's because it's considered that if Owen were running today, with the ability and mental qualities he had but with modern nutrition and training methods, he'd still be the best. The same principle should apply when comparing boxers from different eras.

[Grinderman]

it's hard to put a guy into the hall when he never beats the best guy in his division(lost to lewis, won't fight wlad). that's my criteria at least. a lot of b level fighters doesn't really scream hall of fame worthy to me no matter how seemingly talented you are. even joe calzaghe beat the best guy in his division.

In modern boxing, only Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard have come back after 3+ years out to win again, and none of them did it without losing a round. Vitali made the current WBC champion quit on his stool. And many people were picking Sam Peter to flatten Vitali, though none will admit it now.

Vitali's dominant comeback from injury is a rare and remarkable sporting achievement and will count very much in his favor when he is inevitably elected to the HOF.

[Grinderman]

On average the human population has become 2cm taller each decade during the past century. So if those fighters had been born in Vitali's era they would have been correspondingly taller (and heavier) than they were. A fair comparison of ability would have to take that into account.

Jess Owens is generally regarded as one of the greatest athletes of all time despite the fact that even novices nowadays run far faster times than he did. That's because it's considered that if Owen were running today, with the ability and mental qualities he had but with modern nutrition and training methods, he'd still be the best. The same principle should apply when comparing boxers from different eras.

I'm being as "fair" as all the people who constantly go back in the past to say this fighter or that fighter could wallop the Klitschkos, because they can't find anyone now to do the job.

I'm not interested in what Marciano would look like if he was born in Vitali's era or vice-versa. I'm talking straight-up comparison, fighter to fighter. Vitali destroys Marciano and his entire era like it isn't even there. And deep down everybody knows it.

[Dave Rado]

Yes, it wouldn't be close. Tyson would fold quickly when his usual 1st round amphetamine frenzy got him nowhere.

You're talking post-Rooney. In his Rooney-trained prime he was completely different. It was a fairly short prime but he achieved more in those four years than the vast majority of boxers have ever achieved, and his skills during that period are vastly under-rated by most people now.

[Grinderman]

You're talking post-Rooney. In his Rooney-trained prime he was completely different. It was a fairly short prime but he achieved more in those four years than the vast majority of boxers have ever achieved, and his skills during that period are vastly under-rated by most people now.

Sorry, I was never impressed by the amped-up midget. He fought fighters far worse than the people who get called bums today and got heaps of praise for knocking them over.

[daggum]

In modern boxing, only Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard have come back after 3+ years out to win again, and none of them did it without losing a round. Vitali made the current WBC champion quit on his stool. And many people were picking Sam Peter to flatten Vitali, though none will admit it now.

Vitali's dominant comeback from injury is a rare and remarkable sporting achievement and will count very much in his favor when he is inevitably elected to the HOF.

that's a nice achievement but in the end it's still only beating sam peter who is a mediocre b level fighter. ali fought frazier and foreman. leonard fought hagler. fighting sam peter is a silly comparison. if he wasn't retired and beat sam peter it wouldn't be a big deal so i don't see why it makes him hall of fame worthy just because he was coming off a long layoff. that's more of a personal achievement but not a you are one of the greatest fighters of all time type of thing.