Pac: "I want to pass the torch before retirement...doesn't matter if Filipino or not"

[Elotero]

Hey, no doubt Floyd got talent, no doubt if he fights Pacquiao, I would even give floyd the edge to win. But look at their resumes.. It don't take a genius to realize,,,, and as a matter of fact most would agree, that Manny is going down in history as the better of the 2. If floyd wants that, he got to face and beat Manny.

Manny has nice names on his resume but he beat most of the guys when they weren't prime or at the end of their ropes.

I'm not even going to go over Floyds resume with you.

All you have to do is answer this about their next opponents: Who is fighting someone in their physical prime and who is fighting an "aging vet"?

That tells you all you need to know.

[The Big Dunn]

Depends on who is listening to the cassette.

No man it doesn't. Even you can't change the truth.

[The Big Dunn]

you hating son. im not talking about money. im talking about being well known loved and renowned throughout the world, and floyd aint got **** on pac. pacs name and career will transcend through the ages, floyd will just be that great boxer. Dont hate on the truth.

Yes it will. When he pays Jinkee more than Tiger paid elin for ****ing whores manny's name will live on for ever.

[damned1974]

Wouldn't he have to be fighting the young prime up and comers if he wanted to pass the torch? He hasn't fought any of these qualities for a LONG time...

[Alibata]

Manny has nice names on his resume but he beat most of the guys when they weren't prime or at the end of their ropes.

I'm not even going to go over Floyds resume with you.

All you have to do is answer this about their next opponents: Who is fighting someone in their physical prime and who is fighting an "aging vet"?

That tells you all you need to know.

Cotto was not at the end of his rope,,, I don't believe Margarito was either... Barrera was lb for lb no. 3 when Pacquiao fought him.. Clottey wasn't past his prime.... Now Marquez was fight that should have happened but the Marquez Floyd fought wasn't exactly prime Marquez neither, so was the DLH he fought, nor the Mosley... I give Floyd kudos for fighting Ortiz though.

But...........
Has Floyd ever fought Cotto????
Has Floyd ever fought Margarito????

Obviously to a Pac hater, you would find reasons to discredit Manny's opponents but even Margarito's trainer and Cotto's trainer knew how good a shape and how sharp they were for their fights against Pacquiao...If you really are not biased, you would give Pac credit for his fights against those 2...

[fcastro1]

Yes it will. When he pays Jinkee more than Tiger paid elin for ****ing whores manny's name will live on for ever.

you are hating dude. Pacs career will be remembered and loved for his courage in and out the ring. he will be remembered as an all time great fighter, a humanitarian and a world icon. Floyd will be that guy that fought good and talked **** on 24 7.lol. his legacy wont be squat diddly compared to pac.

[madsweeney]

Manny has nice names on his resume but he beat most of the guys when they weren't prime or at the end of their ropes.

I'm not even going to go over Floyds resume with you.

All you have to do is answer this about their next opponents: Who is fighting someone in their physical prime and who is fighting an "aging vet"?

That tells you all you need to know.

Out of Pac's best wins, your arugment can only really be applied to Morales.

Barrerra was still prime, JMM was prime for first 2 fights, Cotto, well damn one fight shy of his prime. More recently fights, yea Marg, Mosley were well beyond their primes.

Floyd's best wins...Hernandez, last fight of his career, Mosley, same old man Pac gets **** for beating, JMM LOL same aging vet, Of course he has some good notable wins (Coralles, Castillo for instance) but I doubt either get into HOF.

Pac and Floyd are also near the end of their respective ropes, Pac is probably closer himself due to his activity/style and for people like you, all it takes is one loss for these guys to go from the best to shot to ****.

[fcastro1]

dont hate on the great fighting congressman. ****s never been heard off. Floyd aint got **** on pac when it comes down to legend status. You *****s with your crap will never erase that.

[Mayabang]

stfu big dunn. U only get the figures on american ppv. u dont actually get to know how many millions in asia south america and other continents watch their fight. pac is a world icon. a man that stands out and is an inspiration. did u see his greeting in mexico. Floyd will never be on pacs level in terms of stature. dont hate. a man that came from nothing to become a legen and a fighting cogressman, you wont even see that kind of stuff in the movies. dont hate on pac. floyd aint on his level.

if Floyd is getting called a 'culero' here in the US, I can only imagine what they would call him when he visits Mexico.

[Elotero]

Cotto was not at the end of his rope,,, I don't believe Margarito was either... Barrera was lb for lb no. 3 when Pacquiao fought him.. Clottey wasn't past his prime.... Now Marquez was fight that should have happened but the Marquez Floyd fought wasn't exactly prime Marquez neither, so was the DLH he fought, nor the Mosley... I give Floyd kudos for fighting Ortiz though.

But...........
Has Floyd ever fought Cotto????
Has Floyd ever fought Margarito????

Obviously to a Pac hater, you would find reasons to discredit Manny's opponents but even Margarito's trainer and Cotto's trainer knew how good a shape and how sharp they were for their fights against Pacquiao...

The 147 Manny is all showcase bro. All Butterbean ****. The catchweights, the diamond belts, even the refusal to submit to random OST, all that.

You cant discredit the Oscar or the Mosely wins for Floyd either, that discredits Pac even more since he fought them much later than FLoyd.

And I wasnt talking about his WW run. Im talking the pre-WW run. From David Diaz on back. There could have been lots of badass matches but he chose the right guys who would make him shine rather than clean up a single division.

You know why people loved Barrera, Morales and Marquez? They cleaned house.

Manny is cleaning up WW, but at catchweights.

Not the same at all.