Comments Thread For: Vitali: If Haye Lies Unconscious, Then He Has No Excuse

[jimmy1569]

Are you guys serious.. you don't think Haye just watched the Adamek fight.. there'S absolutely no way he's getting in there with someone who REALLY wants to tear his head off & Vitali would brutalize Haye to the point of unconsciousness.... Haye doesn't want none of that.. He pisses in his pants at the sight of Vitali despite all that bs false bravado.

To Vitali it's NOT just personal.. he NEVER forgets as to him it's a matter of Klitschko honor & self defense. I would Not WANT THis fight to happen for the sake of David Haye's health... Vitali never talks about his opponent laying unconscious.... what do you guys think he's going to do. Haye is NOt as tough as Adamek & won't be able to take a sustained beating like briggs.. areolla & others.

Vitali is NOT thinking pizza face here like Wlad was.. he will be putting full force on his shots & Haye will be moved out of the ring on a stretcher... Once YOU all SEE what Vitali is REALLY capable of doing... all you haters will no longer cease to exist on these forums.

Trust me Vitali doesn't sleep at nights.. thinking about HAYE holding both The Klitschko's head's in a conqueror's pose & you'll see this venom if HAYE wants the payday.

[jimmy1569]

You got fighters flat out SAYING they don't want or wouldn't want to get in the ring with him. When have active fighters even swallowed there pride & stated they would think twice about getting in the ring with another fighter.. Tyson Fury WHO'S BIGGER than Vitali.. size wise states he'd be knocked out. Mormeck who knocked Haye down & is likely to face the little bro next says he'd think twice about getting in there with the bigger bro..... get your heads out of the sand people... fighters are AFRAID for there livelihoods when it comes to Vitali.. they ALREADY know that if he doesn't get rid of ypou early & knock you the f out like he did Solis.. he's going to prolong the massacre & hit you with HUNDREDS of hard shots just to torture you.. guess who got hit with HUNDREDS upon hundreds of shots.. guys who were his size & have STILL failed to ever step foot in the ring again..... Lennox Lewis & Shannon Briggs mamas did NOT raise no fools..... ';nuff said.. keep on hating. Vitali retires alltime sluggers & toys with them in the ring>>>> no exceptions!

[jimmy1569]

You don't think fighters read the papers.... the word is out.... Vitali sends your a$$$ to the hospital if you DARE go 12 rds with him & sends you to the hospital if you last only a rd with him.. pick your poison as it's always going to be somewhere in the middle.... broken noses... broken jaws.. broken kneecaps.. concussions.. you name it... haye is no fool & neither is everyone else.. even his little bro won't spar with him any longer... You say Helenious knocks out all the champions & he's Klitschko's size... BRING IT.. that fool's defense is so whack.. he'll take a freaking shellacking.

[jimmy1569]

& you all KNOW i'm right.. so stop frontin' & start keeping it real.. 45 fighters 45 victims... 40 of them ktfo.. all TIME HEAVYWEIGHT RECORD..... that's all you need to know.. 219 rds fought.. 209 PLUS rds won.. WHAT'S ali's scorecard ratio? What's Joe Louis's? What's Lennox?

The TWO most important ways to win a fight & Vitali OWNS THE DISTINCTION of being the absolute best at in heavyweight history..... FACTS.... YOU will ONLY ever beat him if his physical health fails in a fight due to cuts or injuries... but you'll ONLY win 3 of the 15 rds you fought while doing so. THE MOST DOMINANT FIGHTER THAT'S EVER LIVED IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR FACES BUT WE AS BOXING FANS REFUSE TO SEE IT... OVERWHELMING CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE EXISTS PEOPLE... STOP THE BS ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jimmy1569]

His pure boxing skills are very overrated and he has a terrible habit of lunging forward with wild looping shots that only his speed and power have thus far let him get away with. People picking him to outbox Wlad before the fight were smoking the good stuff, that's for sure. But both the Valuev and Wlad fights gave me a better picture as to the kind of things he does do well, namely avoiding big shots and choosing the right moments to land his own. His overall punch output is shockingly low, but the punches he lands generally have a bigger effect on his opponent that most fighters'.

Translation.. deftly afraid to get hit & relies on speed & quickness & occasional power shots to make it look like he's engaging.. We've already seen 3 fights against giants & how scared he was to commit until the coast is clear...

Haye thinks defense before offense.. he's like a poorman's Roy Jones JR... with more power but avoids exchanges & only throws in combos when he thinks you're hurt... the fact that he fell a handful of times trying to get at Wlad by lunging is because he was throwing a punch while trying to get away from the RETALIATORY punch at the SAME exact time... that's all you need to know about David Haye's fighting style... that chin is even more protected than Wlad's is.. he just disguises it better... kapish!

[Dave Rado]

His pure boxing skills are very overrated and he has a terrible habit of lunging forward with wild looping shots that only his speed and power have thus far let him get away with. People picking him to outbox Wlad before the fight were smoking the good stuff, that's for sure. But both the Valuev and Wlad fights gave me a better picture as to the kind of things he does do well, namely avoiding big shots and choosing the right moments to land his own. His overall punch output is shockingly low, but the punches he lands generally have a bigger effect on his opponent that most fighters'.

I agree with everything you said except the bit about Haye's pure boxing skills being over-rated. Other than complete nuthuggers, I've never seen anyone claim that he has much in the way of pure boxing skills. Those who weren't nuthuggers but who gave him a chance of beating Wlad did so because they thought his combination of speed, athleticism, footwork, head movement, and a huge punch could possibly be enough to get a KO against an opponent whom many consider to be chinny. They turned out to be wrong, as I thought they would, but not because they over-rated his skills. Mostly it was because they under-rated Wlad's footwork, workrate and the subtlety and power of his jab. Also, Wlad's chin is under-rated by many, though Haye never really managed to test it..

[Sadistic]

Jimmy is on a roll tonight, keep up the good work bro!

[jimmy1569]

Jimmy is on a roll tonight, keep up the good work bro!

'nuff said... thx bro.. we'll get these haters in denial admitting the truth in no time... there's NO getting past it.. let the mainstream boxing media fool the masses & influence haters decisions... the numbers NEVER lie... & in Klitschko's case size REALLY matters... i have never SEEN a fighter toy with his opposition the way he does.... he keeps his hands completely by his waist. DARING you to come in & get your medicine & this is NO RJJ oR any other fighter that does it by relying on speed & quickness to protect a fragile chin.


Vitali Klitschko has the reflexes of a cat.. let the masses keep talking **** about his footwork.. he's honed those reflexes from back in the day kickboxing.. His fighting stance is basically a kickboxing one.. you SIMPLY can't do anything about it... they ALL think it's an aberration that HE ALWAYS GETS off more punches than his opponents... his left hand is low (the jab hand) IT'S ALREADY halfway to his opponent WITHOUT it even being thrown yet.. his unprecedented size.. length & reach sees to it that HE'S ALWAYS in position to counter or get his punch OFF first.... there's NO COINCIDENCE OR AT least that;s what the haters will have you believe THAT he's the ONLY FIGHTER in boxing history to outthrow..outland.. out slug out jab.. out power punch EVERY SINGLE FIGHTER he's ever faced... FOR some assinine reason they think that THIS WOULD SOMEHOW change if he faced great fighters from the past..... not seeing as absolute PROOF that he was the ONLY one ever to do everything i just mentioned to Lennox Lewis & this is a fighter in His size bracket..



How in the hell WOULD any past great be able to outbox him or throw more punches than him when Lennox is the absolute largest ALLTIME great besides the Klitschko's & he couldn't do it.. big deal he managed to open up a cut with one of his punches while in a clinch... that wouldn't happen again if they fought hundred times & was an aberration.. Lennox LOST the boxing match by a mile but won the fight.. HE'D lose the boxing match EACH & EVERY time because of Klitschko's boxing skills.. but you still have morons on these forums thinking it'd be different with 5 less lbs of Lewis muscle or 5 less yrs of Lewis... THE ONLY THING DIFFERENT WOULD BE NO CUTS FOR KLITSCHKO... iT'S like Holyfield vs Tyson... You have advocates for Mike thinking he'd have beat Holy PRE buster when everyone was piss$$ing in there pants... Mike WOULD never beat Holy... THAT'S just the way it is..



Evander IS & never would've been intimidated by him & most importantly was n't scared of the thought of being hit by him because he believed in his ability to take punches & ofcourse dish out punishment of his own... point being Evander's ear if they fought 100 times would never be eaten again... it ONLY happened once.. just like Vitali's cut ONLY happened once.... Evander was outboxing & outslugging Mike easily without the earbites.. he'd always do it.. no matter which versions of both fighters showed up.... same as if Vitali fought Lennox again no matter what version of LL... tHE PRIME tHING IS way overblown especially when fighters are still relatively closer to there prime than not. Lennox would've always had the same advantages over Mike Tyson EVEN IF HE FACED unbeaten Mike because of the size disparity & skillset... that's just the way a fighter matches up with another.

[Battle*Hardened]

Vitali beat the crap out of Adamek, but I never once saw him go brutal on him. He just outboxed him and landed a few good shots per round.

I don't get why people think that fight would make Haye scared.

[Barry Halls]

haye doesn't even deserve to tie vitalis shoelaces.

Vitali would destroy Haye if the man had the balls to fight him.