Comments Thread For: Mayweather: If Pacquiao is Tested, I'll Absolutely Fight!

[EdMon917]

Next week (Postfight Interview) "I never said that!"

[dldwizard]

Hey genius, wouldnt it be easier for Pac to simply take the harmless blood test?

hey *****.. try reading some other threads instead of ***** circle jerk fest thread like this and maybe you'd find that pac already says that he's gonna take your vaunted OST tests, which is really important for you all fscks and floyd but wouldn't be used by boxers on the undercard of his upcoming fight.. arum also reinforced pac talk, confirming that his fighter would relent to all of your god's request when it comes to the testing protocols..

although i think your the master ***** himself whose the embodiment of the ***** mantra which is 'EVERYTHING PAC SAYS IS BS, AND EVERYTHING OUR GOD SAYS IS GOLDEN'.. if you are working on this premise, then disregard whatever i've post above cause it would just shatter your floyd-centered worldview.. just like every other ***** here in NSB.. just can't take YES for an answer..

[dldwizard]

Next week (Postfight Interview) "I never said that!"

floyd already said that.. :rotflmao:

lead would just probably post "WHAT MY GOD SAYS, +100! WAR FLOYD! FSCK PAC!"-themed messages and he'd post it on every page like a common troll..

[Vino Rotcha]

Actually, ***it, lets get right to the point.....

1.) Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight an actual JMW opponent.

2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!

6.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for being such a cherry-picker.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
* And at JMW, Manny will not fight anybody at all

7.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

Look who is crying... yawnnnn

[GRUSTLER]

From what i recall, it was mayweather who wanted 14 days and then pac wanted 24.

That was where the negotiations fell apart. Pac then said he will accept the 14 day offer, but mayweather said "there have been no negotiations" despite hbo claim to the contrary.

Toy Man, I started debating with you yesterday and have to say that you come off as an alright guy but seem to be very misinformed with this whole debate and debacle. Pac said 24, then Floyd said 14, then Pac said no and went to fight Clottey. After Floyd beat Mosley he said "No cut off" and then Pac said he would agree to 14 AFTER Floyd said no more cut off. I want you to have the whole run down so here is the negotiations in a nutshell:

Schaefer believes that Arum's position of leaving it up to the commission is him "moving the goal post."

"The pressure is on Pacquiao," he said. "They keep moving the goal post like they did with the $10 million weight penalty [if either fighter is over the contract maximum 147 pounds], which we agreed to. They didn't think we would accept that. When we did, they had to find something else to make into a problem. So now they're saying it's up to the commission instead of wanting to negotiate the drug testing with us. I don't want to hear that if the fight breaks up it was because of us. When they came to us with a $10 million weight penalty, they didn't expect us to say yes. They thought we'd say no. So when we said yes, they had to come up with something else. Now we're off USADA, and they are going to come and say only urine testing if that's what the commission says. It's really frustrating.

"We are making compromises. It's a two-way street. If they back off again, I will shut off my phone and spend the rest of the Christmas and New Year's time with my family, and good luck to all of these fools."

While Arum is making plans for an alternative fight for Pacquiao against former junior welterweight titlist Paulie Malignaggi -- who has also accused Pacquiao of using PEDs -- if the Mayweather fight falls apart, Schaefer said he hasn't discussed an alternative with Mayweather.

"We haven't discussed anybody else because the fight we want to bring to the fight fans is the one with Pacquiao," he said. "The focus is on getting Mayweather-Pacquiao done while Bob is making calls everywhere on the Malignaggi fight. That shows his focus is not on Mayweather.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4772853

I still don't understand how people can think Floyd ducked Pac considered Pac was the one who said no to Floyd and went to fight Clottey. It's absolutely amazing how far Pac fans will go to stick up for him. Denying the truth and disgarding facts. Crazy.

[GRUSTLER]

The thing is that pac has now agreed to unlimited blood testing.


Honestly, i think mayweather never wanted this from the stat. I recall in an interview (before 2009) he said that if he were to fight pacquiao the key problem would be that he had to make more money and there was no way he would accept a 50/50 split. I was quite surprised to hear that he immediately accepted the 50/50 split - and it seemed quite su****ious to me that someone who took such a thorough stance on it just gave up so easily?

Also, please read that interview from 2009 with someone close to the mayweather promoters who on interview said he was 100% positive the fight would never happen.

How can you think this when it was Pac who didn't agree to 14 days to but rather opted to go fight Clottey? Even now Manny Pacquiao is saying that he is satisfied with his career and doesn't need a Mayweather fight. What makes you think that Floyd don't want it? Floyd during the first negotiations agreed to a 50/50 split, $10MIL penalty on weight AND the glove size. It was Pac who walked away from the fight not Floyd. I'm curious to know how after all these years that Manny fans can disregard these facts and come up with the assumption that Floyd is scared of Manny when Manny was the one who didn't want the fight? It's baffling.

[straightleft]

Next week (Postfight Interview) "I never said that!"

[Toyman]

FACT: You are a total dip**** if you believe Bob Arum's rubbish about a second negotiation. In fact, you are likely very young, say 15-16, coz anyone who knows boxing, knows Bob Arum.

Only dip**** pac-clowns and kids fall for his games.

Wake up you clown.

Lol, do you know how to read? Please try again.

I did not say bob arum anywhere

I said: Ross Greenburg, and Oscar de la Hoya (Mayweather's own promoter)

:O

I'm quite surprised you couldn't get it after two attempts. But they say third time's a charm hehe...

[Toyman]

Toy Man, I started debating with you yesterday and have to say that you come off as an alright guy but seem to be very misinformed with this whole debate and debacle. Pac said 24, then Floyd said 14, then Pac said no and went to fight Clottey. After Floyd beat Mosley he said "No cut off" and then Pac said he would agree to 14 AFTER Floyd said no more cut off. I want you to have the whole run down so here is the negotiations in a nutshell:


I still don't understand how people can think Floyd ducked Pac considered Pac was the one who said no to Floyd and went to fight Clottey. It's absolutely amazing how far Pac fans will go to stick up for him. Denying the truth and disgarding facts. Crazy.

Hi

No I'm not misinformed. The first fight did not occur because they could not reach a compromise on a demand which had never been made before in the history of boxing. They were 10 days apart. Pacquiao had to do a March fight and for whatever reasons they obviously felt they wouldn't reach a compromise with Mayweather on time. That is why he signed the Clottey fight.


That's how round one went - and I believe that's as unbiased as you can get. Mayweather made a demand, and the two of them could not agree on the time limit. Yes?


However, in the second round of negotiations, Pac OK'd the 14 day blood test and apparently they were "extremeley close" to making a deal in Oscar de la hoya's words. When that fell through - Ross Greenburg basically said that there had been negotiations despite Mayweather team's claim to the contrary. Given that these were closed to the public, no one really knows what went on.

I suppose the real loser here was Golden Boy Promotions, because you have schaefer saying it never happened, and de la hoya saying they were close to a fight...haha, but that's besides the point:


Everything since then is just speculation, because as far as we know these have been the only two negotiations..(they've probably had a few more that we don't know about)

[Toyman]

How can you think this when it was Pac who didn't agree to 14 days to but rather opted to go fight Clottey? Even now Manny Pacquiao is saying that he is satisfied with his career and doesn't need a Mayweather fight. What makes you think that Floyd don't want it? Floyd during the first negotiations agreed to a 50/50 split, $10MIL penalty on weight AND the glove size. It was Pac who walked away from the fight not Floyd. I'm curious to know how after all these years that Manny fans can disregard these facts and come up with the assumption that Floyd is scared of Manny when Manny was the one who didn't want the fight? It's baffling.

I can think that beacuse I just explained it in the paragraph right underneath it.

He's saying he doesn't need a mayweather fight - that's right..and is mayweather saying he needs the pac fight? Do you know why pac walked away? Because it was already getting into january, and he had a fight date set for march. His team obviously felt that they wouldn't be able to reach a compromise so they would go ahead and fight joshua clottey.

You make some decent points, and in fact I agree that pac is not exactly going to the ends of the world to make this fight - but why is it that 14 days was good enough, and then all of a sudden it wasnt?

Like I said, in George Peterson's (close to mayweather's advisors) interview, he seemed 100% confident the fight would never be made. Mayweather even said in an interview before that the problem would be about the money split - hence it's odd that he immediately agreed to the 50/50.