Comments Thread For: Mayweather: If Pacquiao is Tested, I'll Absolutely Fight!

[GRUSTLER]

Hi

No I'm not misinformed. The first fight did not occur because they could not reach a compromise on a demand which had never been made before in the history of boxing. They were 10 days apart. Pacquiao had to do a March fight and for whatever reasons they obviously felt they wouldn't reach a compromise with Mayweather on time. That is why he signed the Clottey fight.


That's how round one went - and I believe that's as unbiased as you can get. Mayweather made a demand, and the two of them could not agree on the time limit. Yes?


However, in the second round of negotiations, Pac OK'd the 14 day blood test and apparently they were "extremeley close" to making a deal in Oscar de la hoya's words. When that fell through - Ross Greenburg basically said that there had been negotiations despite Mayweather team's claim to the contrary. Given that these were closed to the public, no one really knows what went on.

I suppose the real loser here was Golden Boy Promotions, because you have schaefer saying it never happened, and de la hoya saying they were close to a fight...haha, but that's besides the point:


Everything since then is just speculation, because as far as we know these have been the only two negotiations..(they've probably had a few more that we don't know about)

Toy Man, I'm a keep it 100 with you. You are making up excuses for Pac. There were no official 2nd and 3rd negotiation because Arum has just recently said that he would agree to the testing ONLY if WADA handled it out of the USA and that he had issues with the USADA being affiliate with Floyd. How could Pac then agree to 14 days with when USADA were the ones who were always going to do the testing? There should have NEVER been a reason for Manny to back out of the fight if A. He wanted it and B. If he is indeed clean. Since you are making so many excuses for Pac. What is the reason for him not agreeing to 14 days if he was going to agree to it anyway? Why being so hesitant? Don't give me that he had another commitment excuse because it's lame.

Pac was negotiating with Floyd and then at the same time made a fight happen with Clottey? What you are not getting is, it was Pac who didn't want to fight Floyd for whatever reason you want to throw out there and that's a fact. $10MIL penalty on weight has NEVER been done in the history of boxing either. I just posted Schaefer's whole stance on the negotiation between them but it seems like you are not acknowledging that. The article basically had Richard Schaefer stressed because Top Rank kept Bull****ting about making the fight. After Floyd beat Shane Mosley he said "No more cut off's" so how could Pac agree to 14 days? Whatever. I'm really fed up with this nonsense. I'm not fooled by Top Rank and Floyd either. I can look at things and weigh in on it with my own outlook and see the truth in it.

[GRUSTLER]

I can think that beacuse I just explained it in the paragraph right underneath it.

He's saying he doesn't need a mayweather fight - that's right..and is mayweather saying he needs the pac fight? Do you know why pac walked away? Because it was already getting into january, and he had a fight date set for march. His team obviously felt that they wouldn't be able to reach a compromise so they would go ahead and fight joshua clottey.

You make some decent points, and in fact I agree that pac is not exactly going to the ends of the world to make this fight - but why is it that 14 days was good enough, and then all of a sudden it wasnt?

Like I said, in George Peterson's (close to mayweather's advisors) interview, he seemed 100% confident the fight would never be made. Mayweather even said in an interview before that the problem would be about the money split - hence it's odd that he immediately agreed to the 50/50.

when has Floyd Mayweather Jr EVER been difficult when it came to negotiating a big money fight? Judah, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez Mosley. Pac has had issues with De La Hoya, Hatton and Cotto making each one bend to his requests to make the fight(s). I see your points as well but nothing but shadyness has been coming out of Team Pac since day one. I just can't blame Floyd for not wanting to fight when he agreed to everything Pac wanted in the first OFFICIAL negotiations but Pac couldn't do it for Floyd. Fine that they couldn't agree and moved on but fact of the matter is that AFTER they didn't want to fight Floyd. All they did was talk about fighting him. Ridiculous. Anyways, will see what the future holds but I think the fans have to demand more out of both and stop cosigning everything they do to not fight one another. If all Floyd want is Pac to take the tests then WE should make sure Pac takes them to make the fight. If Floyd is bluffing then atleast we know. Until then it's foolish to argue about it. If Floyd beats Ortiz this weekend and Pac JMM in November then there's no reason why we should as boxing fans support these fighters if the next fight ain't with both.

[iNDOLiFER]

same ***** over and here!!!.. manny should have agree to ost the first time if he wanted to fight blah blah blah.. well hello the same can be said about floyd. if he wanted to fight he would have never demand ost something he has never done before and from a guy who he says he can easily beat. or how 14 days was good then its not good anymore. same ***** over and over..

[LupinIII]

same ***** over and here!!!.. manny should have agree to ost the first time if he wanted to fight blah blah blah.. well hello the same can be said about floyd. if he wanted to fight he would have never demand ost something he has never done before and from a guy who he says he can easily beat. or how 14 days was good then its not good anymore. same ***** over and over..

you just copy and paste this post 30x a day

"how dare floyd ask manny OST test in 2010. he didn't ask previous 40 fights and nothing has changed in 15 years.Manny is just simple humble man.He scaredy that why he akss for OST test.nyahahahaha"

[iNDOLiFER]

you just copy and paste this post 30x a day

"how dare floyd ask manny OST test in 2010. he didn't ask previous 40 fights and nothing has changed in 15 years.Manny is just simple humble man.He scaredy that why he akss for OST test.nyahahahaha"

im glad u notice...

[iNDOLiFER]

right.. how dare floyd demand ost from a one dimensional come foward no skill easy work lil midget.

[iNDOLiFER]

like anything posted on this thread is new info for u??? same ***** just a different day.

[LupinIII]

you needed three post to say that?

[Toyman]

Toy Man, I'm a keep it 100 with you. You are making up excuses for Pac. There were no official 2nd and 3rd negotiation because Arum has just recently said that he would agree to the testing ONLY if WADA handled it out of the USA and that he had issues with the USADA being affiliate with Floyd. How could Pac then agree to 14 days with when USADA were the ones who were always going to do the testing? There should have NEVER been a reason for Manny to back out of the fight if A. He wanted it and B. If he is indeed clean. Since you are making so many excuses for Pac. What is the reason for him not agreeing to 14 days if he was going to agree to it anyway? Why being so hesitant? Don't give me that he had another commitment excuse because it's lame.

Pac was negotiating with Floyd and then at the same time made a fight happen with Clottey? What you are not getting is, it was Pac who didn't want to fight Floyd for whatever reason you want to throw out there and that's a fact. $10MIL penalty on weight has NEVER been done in the history of boxing either. I just posted Schaefer's whole stance on the negotiation between them but it seems like you are not acknowledging that. The article basically had Richard Schaefer stressed because Top Rank kept Bull****ting about making the fight. After Floyd beat Shane Mosley he said "No more cut off's" so how could Pac agree to 14 days? Whatever. I'm really fed up with this nonsense. I'm not fooled by Top Rank and Floyd either. I can look at things and weigh in on it with my own outlook and see the truth in it.

Not sure you understood: What exactly was your previous question?

But i will try to address what you said here anyway:

First of all, there has for sure been a 2nd negotiation - confirmed by Ross Greenburg and Oscar de la hoya - if you don't want to believe that its up to you.

I don't follow with the next bit: "How could Manny agree to 14 days when USADA were the ones who were going to do the testing? " what exactly do you mean by that?

Pac pulled out of negotiations for the first fight because he had to fight in March, and given that the negotiations with mayweather were making very slow progress in january - pac's team decided to pull the plug and resume it later. You don't think it's a valid excuse? Joshua clottey was ready to fight and pac needed to have an opponent by january so that was that.

When negotiations resumed, pac agreed to 14 days, and all we know from the 2nd negotiations are that at some point they were "extremely close" - (ODH). What exactly caused it to fall apart, no one knows. Arum gave mayweather a deadline to accept the fight and he didn't. This has all been confirmed by Ross Greenburg.

[iNDOLiFER]

you needed three post to say that?

yeszir.....