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  • IMDAZED
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    #151
    Originally posted by Toyman
    Some of the major sports do not even do random blood testing either.

    But thats besides the point: What i really want to know is, which athletes have actually been caught through USADA blood testing?

    Im no steroid expert - but exactly which steroids is mayweather afraid pac is using? As far as I know, even the medical experts told mayweather that a 14 day window is safe.

    Here, read this





    What exactly is it that the USADA test can find out which the regular tests cannot?
    It's doubtful you find anything on a test you know about six months in advance.

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    • RL_GMA
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      #152
      [IMG]http://i284.***********.com/albums/ll36/Bigsteve87/Gifs/WhateverClueless.gif[/IMG]

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        #153
        Originally posted by SekondzOut
        so your bottom line is that Floyd is AFRAID to fight Manny...at least thats what I get from it....now before you go jumping outta the jet without a parachute...I used to give Floyd a hard time on these boards when I didn't give a **** about the negotiaitons and just took the media's word....why?...cause I didn't give a ****...neither dude is on my fav list...but as time passed...I did my own research and added the FACTS...not the myths....FACT is, the fight was gonna happen....old fragile hands bowed down from 10 oz to 8 oz gloves....and then agreed to that ABSURB weight penalty....everything seemed cool...UNTIL blood testing came in....in the ****in NORMAL world where HONESTY and INTEGRITY seperates the real from the fake....that bull**** blood test is a small thing to giant....but NOOOOOOO!!!!!....from the fear of needles to he's bigger than me to mental **** to----man yall know what was coming outta that camp....then when Floyd got BOLD and said Manny is next....Arum spun **** to USADA vs WADA and this can't be trusted ans so on...man if you fall for that...its all good...but don't try to turn bs into logic....now lets see what happens next....if HBO turns up the heat on BOTH....those post fight talks will be very interesting

        The thing is that pac has now agreed to unlimited blood testing.


        Honestly, i think mayweather never wanted this from the stat. I recall in an interview (before 2009) he said that if he were to fight pacquiao the key problem would be that he had to make more money and there was no way he would accept a 50/50 split. I was quite surprised to hear that he immediately accepted the 50/50 split - and it seemed quite su****ious to me that someone who took such a thorough stance on it just gave up so easily?

        Also, please read that interview from 2009 with someone close to the mayweather promoters who on interview said he was 100% positive the fight would never happen.

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          #154
          Originally posted by Rolaz
          Olympic are for amateurs boxers; while professional boxers have there own testing; USA Govt Authorities aren't that ****** that they can not detect anybody using drugs.

          If Mayweather Team are really serious about their accusation why can't they file FORMAL complaints before the USA Boxing Authorities?

          Why Can't Mayweather appear personally inside Court?
          If Mayweather Team are really serious about their accusation why can't they file FORMAL complaints before the USA Boxing Authorities?

          Don't know that this is plausible. Why does floyd have to do it your way to be serious? He isn't going into court because he ispaying his lawyers to their. This is a deposition, not a criminal trial.

          @toyman

          Manny refused the 14 day cutoff compromise offered by floyd after refusing the 24 day compromise offer. FLoyd's refusal to re offer the compromise seems to be a reaction to manny's refusal of a compromise. If you were floyd, would you re offer a compromise after being told to **** off? I think you wouldn't

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          • Toyman
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            #155
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            It's doubtful you find anything on a test you know about six months in advance.
            That's not the question

            the question is: What is it about the usada test that makes it so much better than the current test? From the evidence posted in that article, the usada test does not have much success in detecting hgh anyway.

            Even mayweathers olympic "style" blood testing can be prepared for by simply taking a year off and using steroids during that 1 year, then training while you are "clean"

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              #156
              Originally posted by Toyman
              The thing is that pac has now agreed to unlimited blood testing.


              Honestly, i think mayweather never wanted this from the stat. I recall in an interview (before 2009) he said that if he were to fight pacquiao the key problem would be that he had to make more money and there was no way he would accept a 50/50 split. I was quite surprised to hear that he immediately accepted the 50/50 split - and it seemed quite su****ious to me that someone who took such a thorough stance on it just gave up so easily?

              Also, please read that interview from 2009 with someone close to the mayweather promoters who on interview said he was 100% positive the fight would never happen.
              No toyman that doesn't fly here. Manny saying there are no issue with testing is not the same as manny saying I agree to random OST with no negotiated cutoff.

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                #157
                Originally posted by BoZz
                remember:


                fear of needles

                3 week gap

                2 week gap

                3 days gap

                yes me take test

                oh noo me no trust USADA


                this dude been lying for the last 2 years..the only place he wants to fight is the court room.

                he's on roids simple as that
                You're silly enough to "make a cat laugh".......

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by cottofan2
                  They both agreed to the random drug testing. The problem is that Manny has half of his training camp in the Phillipines and USADA doesn't leave the US. So Arum has agreed to WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency). WADA would not put their whole operation on the line just to lie for Manny. This is fair. But Floyd will use this (I only trust USADA) as his out. HE WILL NEVER FIGHT MANNY!!! He is afraid!!!
                  Yup, wifebeater is a coward, he'll always find an excuse to duck pacquiao

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                  • Toyman
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    If Mayweather Team are really serious about their accusation why can't they file FORMAL complaints before the USA Boxing Authorities?

                    Don't know that this is plausible. Why does floyd have to do it your way to be serious? He isn't going into court because he ispaying his lawyers to their. This is a deposition, not a criminal trial.

                    @toyman

                    Manny refused the 14 day cutoff compromise offered by floyd after refusing the 24 day compromise offer. FLoyd's refusal to re offer the compromise seems to be a reaction to manny's refusal of a compromise. If you were floyd, would you re offer a compromise after being told to **** off? I think you wouldn't


                    From what i recall, it was mayweather who wanted 14 days and then pac wanted 24.

                    That was where the negotiations fell apart. Pac then said he will accept the 14 day offer, but mayweather said "there have been no negotiations" despite hbo claim to the contrary.

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by Toyman
                      From what i recall, it was mayweather who wanted 14 days and then pac wanted 24.

                      That was where the negotiations fell apart. Pac then said he will accept the 14 day offer, but mayweather said "there have been no negotiations" despite hbo claim to the contrary.
                      You're skipping a few parts.

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