Top 10 British/Irish Fighters of All Time

**McKay 1** · 10-21-2005, 11:55 AM

Fitzsimmons #1

**Martin (Top Knowledge)** · 10-21-2005, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by JUYJUY

Top 10 British/Irish Fighters of All Time

I know you don't like Lennox Lewis... But he's made the top 10 heavyweights of all time list, yet he doesn't make your list?

Lennox Lewis should be in there. He dominated the heavyweight division for nearly a decade, He unified it, he beat every man he ever faced! - Making it his mission to get his two defeats back in the ring to reverse the result. He won the Olympic gold medal, he beat everyman they could throw at him, (and they didn't like him being the heavyweight champ because he wasn't American), Even at 39yrs of age he beat the current heavyweight champion of the World Vitali before retiring.

I don't care if you don't like him, he deserves to be in the list!

**JUYJUY** · 10-21-2005, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by Martin (Top Knowledge)

I know you don't like Lennox Lewis... But he's made the top 10 heavyweights of all time list, yet he doesn't make your list?

Lennox Lewis should be in there. He dominated the heavyweight division for nearly a decade, He unified it, he beat every man he ever faced! - Making it his mission to get his two defeats back in the ring to reverse the result. He won the Olympic gold medal, he beat everyman they could throw at him, (and they didn't like him being the heavyweight champ because he wasn't American), Even at 39yrs of age he beat the current heavyweight champion of the World Vitali before retiring.

I don't care if you don't like him, he deserves to be in the list!

He dominated the heavyweight division in the year 2000 in three fights against over-rated opposition, that's hardly a decade dude (you really think he would of lived with Bowe from the first Bowe-Holyfield fight or Holyfield from the second Bowe-Holyfield fight? I don't think so somehow). Lewis was losing every round to Frank Bruno and clearly lost to Ray Mercer, the guy got knocked out by Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman, he lost to Holyfield in their second fight and what has Holyfield done since?, Tyson was atleast 15 years past his best and what has Tyson done since?, FFS wake up.

**Martin (Top Knowledge)** · 10-21-2005, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by JUYJUY

He dominated the heavyweight division in the year 2000 in three fights against over-rated opposition, that's hardly a decade dude (you really think he would of lived with Bowe from the first Bowe-Holyfield fight or Holyfield from the second Bowe-Holyfield fight? I don't think so somehow). Lewis was losing every round to Frank Bruno and clearly lost to Ray Mercer, the guy got knocked out by Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman, he lost to Holyfield in their second fight and what has Holyfield done since?, Tyson was atleast 15 years past his best and what has Tyson done since?, FFS wake up.

People make that Bruno fight sound so much worse than it was... It wasn't as if Bruno was hammering Lennox Lewis all around the ring for 6 rounds.

And the fact of the matter is, that Frank Bruno got knocked out. [period]

I always think it's crap when people say that Lewis lost to Ray Mercer too, I don't think he did... Sure it was a close fight but Lennox did enough to win.

Lennox Lewis would have KO'd Rid**** Bowe if Rid**** Bowe hadn't thrown his belt in the bin because he refused to fight Lewis, And it was Lennox Lewis that had already knocked out Rid**** Bowe in the Olympic finals to win gold... So I don't see how you can say that Lewis wouldn't be able to live with Bowe/Holyfield???

Holyfield was a damn good fighter, but he never had the kind of skill that Lennox Lewis possessed. Lennox Lewis was the sweet science.

And last of all... Saying that Lewis only dominated the division for three fights is a little naive. That's just using this "unfortunate" multiple belts situation to your advantage. Lennox Lewis was "The Man" before he fought a reluctant Holyfield.

There are always people that are gonna try and look for holes in Lennox Lewis's career, and no one's career is perfect... But if you weigh up the pro's with the con's, the PRO's heavily out number the cons in Lennox Lewis's career.

**JUYJUY** · 10-21-2005, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by Martin (Top Knowledge)

It wasn't as if Bruno was hammering Lennox Lewis all around the ring for 6 rounds.

Uh, it was, actually. And he was completely out-jabbing him.

**Parody** · 10-21-2005, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by JUYJUY

1. Ted 'Kid' Lewis (legendary fight series with the legendary Jack Britton, boxed Benny Leonard's ears off before ring invaded, beating Georges Carpentier before cheating cheap shot, to put that into perspective Leonard and Carpentier are top 10 all-time lb4lb world greats)
2. Jimmy Wilde (best Flyweight ever, rated as one of the three greatest punchers of all-time by Ring Magazine)
3. Jack 'Kid' Berg (64 wins in America, defeated the great Kid Chocolate)
4. Bob Fitzsimmons (first man ever, before Roy Jones Jr, to win world titles from Middleweight to Heavyweight)
5. Nigel Benn (most exciting fighter ever, beat former WBC champ in round one in Las Vegas, won the first ever fight between two WBC champs in most memorable brutal war ever)
6. Ken Buchanan (Laguna x 2, did good with a PEAK Duran)
7. Lloyd Honeyghan (Curry was rated as the best fighter in the world at the time of Honeyghan handing him his ass)
8. Chris Eubank (holds the record ammount of world title wins in British boxing history, along with Frank Bruno he is the most recognised British boxer ever outside of the ring in Britain, won the greatest ever British boxing match in 1990 when he owned Benn)
9. Barry McGuigan (lost to Chris Eubank's brother but won world title in 1985 and fought in 'Fight of the Year' 1986)
10. Owen Moran (crossed the Atlantic, proved he was better than Abe Attell and knocked out Battling Nelson)

Honorable Mentions
Jim Driscoll, Tommy Farr (gave Joe Louis a good fight), Benny Lynch, Randolph Turpin (beat Sugar Ray Robinson), Don ****ell (gave Rocky Marciano a good fight), Henry Cooper (dropped Cassius Clay), John H Stracey, Naseem Hamed, Ricky Hatton

Mentions (modern)
Jim Watt, Maurice Hope, John Conteh, Dennis Andries, Alan Minter, Herol Graham, Dave McAuley, Duke McKenzie, Steve Collins, Lennox Lewis

What??? No Lennox Lewis here?? hes Worlds all time best boxers and u dont have in the British all time?? Bad karma for u...

**JUYJUY** · 10-21-2005, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by Martin (Top Knowledge)

I always think it's crap when people say that Lewis lost to Ray Mercer too, I don't think he did... Sure it was a close fight but Lennox did enough to win.

I haven't seen the fight for years, but from what I remember Mercer quite clearly won the fight by a fair few rounds.

**JUYJUY** · 10-21-2005, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by Martin (Top Knowledge)

And it was Lennox Lewis that had already knocked out Rid**** Bowe in the Olympic finals to win gold

WTF?? Did I actually see that fight or what? It was a bull**** premature stoppage, no knockout at all, Bowe standing and perfectly fine. And Bowe had got inside a few times and rattled Lewis.

**JUYJUY** · 10-21-2005, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by Martin (Top Knowledge)

But he's made the top 10 heavyweights of all time list

He may of made Emanuel Steward's and Frank Maloney's top 10 heavyweights of all time list, but he most certainly is not one of the best 10 heavyweights of all time, no way.

Top 10 British/Irish Fighters of All Time