give kid a ****in break, He had no amateur career. What do you want him to do, fight a top ten fighter.
And the rumours are that he is much younger than 19.
Chavez Jr. is only getting televised fights because of his name, make no mistake.
Having said that, his fights are pretty interesting for such a green prospect. It's obvious he can throw under the right circumstances.
However even thinking about him being a contender at this point is way premature. I'm not convinced that having an easy start to your pro career is going to make up for the years of missing out on fundamental training in the amateurs. "Learning on the job" I don't think it going to cut it, but I guess you never know.
give kid a ****in break, He had no amateur career. What do you want him to do, fight a top ten fighter.
And the rumours are that he is much younger than 19.
Yeah, rumours are they lied so he can get fights in the states and that he is really 16.
The verdict is still out on him but with the amount of attention he receives and the televised fights, he just might get overrated soon.
Anyone else think its good that this guy is 23-0 and still fighting 6 rounders? Can you say padding your record?
Originally posted by RastaSmoker
We are talking about a guy that cant even fight 10 rounders yet. He is 23 fights into his career and he still hasnt stepped up in compitition.
Even our own boxingscene.com likes his chances
4. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr- Jr Welterweight
Record: 20-0- 15(KO's)
Stance: Orthodox
Age: 19
Talk about having a built in fan base. Don't get the wrong idea, he's not just Julio Cesar Chavez's son, but a legit prospect and that's what has the boxing world talking. Chavez Jr has an amazing left hand that he uses to go up and down on opponents. He throws every punch in the book and throws them well.
To me this is a really ****ty way to describe him. His left is effective on people that just stand there. That i will give him. But in every fight where the opponent actually fought him instead of laying down for the name has done surprisingly well agaisnt someone who is supposedly the next big thing.
Yes this guy is better then an average fighter, but not by much. He is doing what his father was accused of doing. Fighting basically taxi cab drivers. His opponents all time win loss records combined are 122 - 108, not to mention the only fighting 6 and 8 rounders.
In comparrison to other fighters of notable status such as Vargas who moved to 10 rounders in 10 fights, Shane Mosley in 10 fights, DLH in 7 fights, even his father in 6 figths. He does seem on the sssslllloooooowwww wwwaaaayyyy up the ladder.
His last five fights have been against Stiers (9-4), Alarcon (12-10), Nelson (10-10), Galvan (21-6), and Wynant (9-3). All of which were hand picked, no skilled, Hi, i showed up can i have my check, type of fighters. If he really wants to gain some true fans base and not just people looking for someone to love now that Sr. is done. He needs to step up NOW. Not thirty five fights into his career.
So after all this has been said by me. What do you guys think?
He's 19 years old, fighting bums on tv and fighting 6 rounders with 20+ fights under his belt. Thats what peoples beef is about. I think Floyd just got to 30 fights.
Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
Watching your dad sparr and train in the gym isnt gonna teach you everything you need to know to fight in the Ring. You need the experience for yourself.
Chavez Jr. may be overhyped.. sure one can not deny the possibility.
But if one is against the path he is taking that just ******, because as people mentioned already he is only 19, and he has not amateur experience whatsoever. You dont wanna put a kid like that in front of the lions.
You said it yourself some of the fighters have given Jr. some difficulty before he knocked them out, and you wanna put him in against someone really dangerous already? Sounds like you wanna kill his boxing career.
How long have any of you followed boxing ?
Do you think it's some kind of new phenomenon for the son of a legend to get more publicity than he really deserves ?
He looks like a good fighter, but his opposition helps him do so.
The tools are there....let's see how they work when he starts getting tested.
enjoy what??? watching a guy fight hand picked fighters with no danger to JCC jr all the while his camp tells us how good he is. No thanxs, i went through that with that other famous Jr.
Either get in the fire or get out.
from what i've been told, JCC Jr. really had no prior amateur experience... these previous fights and probably the next couple of fights he has over the next few years will be just like that.. get over it.
can he get his experience off tv like everyone else?
Originally posted by restless_438
from what i've been told, JCC Jr. really had no prior amateur experience... these previous fights and probably the next couple of fights he has over the next few years will be just like that.. get over it.
I think some may also be fascinated by watching an anemic & pre-pubescent looking kid knock the crap out of tattooed, bearded men....even if those men are pure scrubs.
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