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  • Deevel916
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    #11
    Originally posted by hhs661
    I hate Dana White, but he and UFC are going about it the right way. They're promoting the fight during the NFL season. You know what gets the best ratings on Sundays?? Football does. A simple, meaningless preseason game will do more numbers than any even going on in the sports world.

    Not only that, but they also have their 2 best heavyweights fighting on November 12 on Network TV. A card that could of easily been charged to us, but they aren't charging a single penny. While Top Rank drops the ball with CBS and it's horrible time slots to not have the Manny-Mosley or even Cotto-Mayorga fight on regular TV. They ****ed around and put both on PPV smh... Even Golden Boy could try something like this but for whatever reason, their 24/7 went to CNN. Both of these promotional companies have dropped the ball. It's a shame that an organization like UFC, being worse than boxing, is doing a better job of promoting it's product better than guys who have been in this business for decades.
    I never understood why Dana is so disliked by many boxing fans? Dana himself is a big boxing fan and has said so on several occasions. He just criticizes the way the sport of boxing is currently being run, and he's been pretty spot on. He hasnt said anything about boxing that you just didnt say regarding them constantly dropping the ball.

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    • ThePrince
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      #12
      Originally posted by -Genesis-
      Arum could get fights on CbS but he is too greedy. He's old and isn't going to take the time now to build the sport.
      This is sad but true. He had every opportunity to get a similar deal with CBS but why do that when you can milk more money from fans with endless PPVs? Velasquez-Dos Santos was originally slated to be PPV, but as a treat to their loyal fans, the UFC moved it to FREE showing on FOX. Can anyone imagine Arum passing on a Pacquiao or even Cotto fight on PPV and instead showing it for free on CBS?

      Yeah, boxers in general make much more guaranteed money than UFC fighters, but even if a guy like Pacquiao can't logistically fight on CBS for free, you still have a TON of fighters on your roster who can. But there's no such thing as too much money for an 80 year old hundred millionaire it seems. If it were up to Bob, every fight would be PPV

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      • el malo
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        #13
        Originally posted by -Genesis-
        Arum could get fights on CbS but he is too greedy. He's old and isn't going to take the time now to build the sport.
        Thats b.s. if cbs wanted fights on their air bob would jump all over it. cbs simply doesn't want to waste their airtime on a irrelevant sport (besides floyd and pac) like boxing.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Deevel916
          I never understood why Dana is so disliked by many boxing fans? Dana himself is a big boxing fan and has said so on several occasions. He just criticizes the way the sport of boxing is currently being run, and he's been pretty spot on. He hasnt said anything about boxing that you just didnt say regarding them constantly dropping the ball.


          @ the bolded.. It's cause the truth hurt. A lot of boxing people catch feelings about that. They believe that MMA, not only the UFC, was a flash in the pan and would soon be forgotten. But this guy takes his brand overseas to Europe, Brazil and even up north to Canada for fight cards. He builds his fighters up, has pretty good match-making and uses things like Versus and Fox to help maintain the popularity. Don't get me wrong, the guy is classless at times but he speaks his mind and hardly ever sugarcoats ****. Him and Zuffa are doing something right, cause the UFC brand is only going to get bigger after November 12

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            #15
            Originally posted by el malo
            Thats b.s. if cbs wanted fights on their air bob would jump all over it. cbs simply doesn't want to waste their airtime on a irrelevant sport (besides floyd and pac) like boxing.
            I'd have to agree with CBS not wanting to invest in boxing right now. If they saw it as a good investment, a network would have surely jumped all over it right now.

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            • _original_
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              #16
              And they're not promoting some crappy fight neither, it's freakin' Cain VS Dos Santos!! Can you imagine a boxing fight of that caliber being broadcasted on network television? Hell no! Boxing promoters are too greedy and don't give a damn if they run the sport into the ground as long as they're still making money right now. Not too sound like a horrible person but in order for boxing to prosper, Bob Arum must die and Top Rank must either fall apart or merge with Golden Boy.

              There's plenty of fighters that would be perfect for network tv and bring back the sport to it's glory days. Have fighters like Gamboa, Angulo, Froch, Donaire, Cotto, Margarito, Russell, Canelo, fight at least once a year on network television with an occasional Floyd or Pacquiao bout (I'm reaching here) and boxing is back.

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                #17
                Originally posted by hhs661
                @ the bolded.. It's cause the truth hurt. A lot of boxing people catch feelings about that. They believe that MMA, not only the UFC, was a flash in the pan and would soon be forgotten. But this guy takes his brand overseas to Europe, Brazil and even up north to Canada for fight cards. He builds his fighters up, has pretty good match-making and uses things like Versus and Fox to help maintain the popularity. Don't get me wrong, the guy is classless at times but he speaks his mind and hardly ever sugarcoats ****. Him and Zuffa are doing something right, cause the UFC brand is only going to get bigger after November 12
                I see it like this. UFC fans are some happy fans! Dana ensures that the fights are suppose to happen do happen for the most part. No cherry picking who you would like to fight. LOL. Its either you fight or get stripped and have to start from scratch now. If it wasnt for the fact that I was a boxing fan since I was 7yrs old, I would not have been one if I started watching it within the past few yrs. Politics, money, and greed have ruined this sport.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by el malo
                  Thats b.s. if cbs wanted fights on their air bob would jump all over it. cbs simply doesn't want to waste their airtime on a irrelevant sport (besides floyd and pac) like boxing.
                  Lol you have no clue what you are talking about.

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                  • ThePrince
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by el malo
                    Thats b.s. if cbs wanted fights on their air bob would jump all over it. cbs simply doesn't want to waste their airtime on a irrelevant sport (besides floyd and pac) like boxing.
                    Not true at all...
                    Les Moonves, the president and CEO of CBS Corp., was hosting Top Rank officials Bob Arum and Todd duBoef at a dinner in New York in late January when he spoke words that may ultimately change the course of boxing in the United States.

                    The meal came only a few days after Top Rank had closed a deal with CBS and Showtime to distribute and help it promote its May 7 pay-per-view bout between Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley, which will be held at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

                    Top Rank’s decision to move to CBS/Showtime and away from HBO Pay-Per-View, which had dominated the industry for the last dozen years or so, sent shockwaves reverberating throughout the boxing industry.

                    Moonves looked at Arum and duBoef and, referring to the May 7 pay-per-view card, said, “We’ll make this work.” And then, in words that boxing fans in the U.S. have been dying to hear for more than two decades, he added, “I want you guys to figure out how to help me get boxing back [on network television] on Saturday night.”

                    It isn't quite live boxing's network return, but the promotion for Pacquiao-Mosley is outside the box.


                    But HBO offers big fees and PPV makes more money than free TV, so it's business as usual. And as long as that happens, Boxing will sink further and further into niche and obscurity especially when Pacquiao retires for good. Meanwhile the UFC will be sitting pretty alongside the NFL on FOX.

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                    • Battle*Hardened
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by _original_
                      And they're not promoting some crappy fight neither, it's freakin' Cain VS Dos Santos!! Can you imagine a boxing fight of that caliber being broadcasted on network television? Hell no! Boxing promoters are too greedy and don't give a damn if they run the sport into the ground as long as they're still making money right now. Not too sound like a horrible person but in order for boxing to prosper, Bob Arum must die and Top Rank must either fall apart or merge with Golden Boy.

                      There's plenty of fighters that would be perfect for network tv and bring back the sport to it's glory days. Have fighters like Gamboa, Angulo, Froch, Donaire, Cotto, Margarito, Russell, Canelo, fight at least once a year on network television with an occasional Floyd or Pacquiao bout (I'm reaching here) and boxing is back.
                      It's a big fight to be fair, but no one really knows who those two guys are.

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