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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #31
    Originally posted by daggum
    because it's the perfect example of how judging has gone wrong in boxing. clean punches, defense, and trapping your opponent has been overruled with ineffective aggression and sheer volume.
    Its more your bias against people who dont punch as hard. Prescott and Hopkins lander harder shots because they are harder punchers than their opponents. Could have told you that before the fight.

    Ive watched that round a few times now and you go on about McCloskeys shots being blocked when the majority of Prescotts are swinging and hittin thin air. Even in the last 30 seconds, hes mostly missing. McCloskey punched himself out if anything.

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      #32
      Originally posted by *Khan
      I'd say McCloskey landed what about 5 hard punches while Prescott would land about 10-15 per round. This fight was not even close. Don't listen to anyone who said it was close, it wasn't. At all. Boxing is about winning a fight. You win a fight by beating up your opponent, not by staring, feinting and backing up your opponent without throwing punches like McCloskey did to Prescott.
      going into the last round according to punch stats prescott had landed 94 and mccloskey had landed 91. A lot of prescott landed punches were jabs, but after the 7th he got tired dropped his hands and stopped using the jab.

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      • daggum
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        #33
        Originally posted by *Khan
        I'd say McCloskey landed what about 5 hard punches while Prescott would land about 10-15 per round. This fight was not even close. Don't listen to anyone who said it was close, it wasn't. At all. Boxing is about winning a fight. You win a fight by beating up your opponent, not by staring, feinting and backing up your opponent without throwing punches like McCloskey did to Prescott.
        yes if you follow the rules you are correct but boxing has been hijacked by the tard people who think coming forward and running into punches=winning. all the tactics and nuance of boxing has been thrown out in favor of sheer aggression. clint eastwood was wrong when he said "tough ain't enough" implying that you needed some actual skills and brains to succeed. it is enough because you can just keep getting outlanded and still win a boxing match nowadays if you are persistent enough. it makes no sense.

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          #34
          Prescott knew he'd lose a close fight by decision. That's what home court advantage means, and this exists in every country, especially here in the US. Remember, no one forced Prescott to fight in McCloskeys backyard.

          Prescott KNEW he had to either clearly dominate or KO McCloskey. He couldn't, therefore he lost. It was a close fight, Prescott wasn't good enough to make sure it wasn't. Career over for Prescott.

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            #35
            Originally posted by daggum
            yes if you follow the rules you are correct but boxing has been hijacked by the tard people who think coming forward and running into punches=winning. all the tactics and nuance of boxing has been thrown out in favor of sheer aggression. clint eastwood was wrong when he said "tough ain't enough" implying that you needed some actual skills and brains to succeed. it is enough because you can just keep getting outlanded and still win a boxing match nowadays if you are persistent enough. it makes no sense.
            Sheer agression? What the *** you on about? McCloskey is one of the least aggressive fighters out there. You're always on your high horse like you're some boxing connoisseur when all you do is cry about decisions or people ducking.

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            • daggum
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              #36
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              Its more your bias against people who dont punch as hard. Prescott and Hopkins lander harder shots because they are harder punchers than their opponents. Could have told you that before the fight.

              Ive watched that round a few times now and you go on about McCloskeys shots being blocked when the majority of Prescotts are swinging and hittin thin air. Even in the last 30 seconds, hes mostly missing. McCloskey punched himself out if anything.
              no it's actually my so called "bias" against guys who land clean punches. the rules of boxing have an emphasis on clean punches not blocked, deflected, or grazing punches(aka not clean punches). in the calzaghe-hopkins fight calzaghe wasn't landing clean punches at all so that was an easier fight to score. mccloskey was at least partially landing some grazing and deflected shots so that made the round closer but almost all the actual clean punches were landed by prescott and they were "harder" because he was landing "cleaner" the two go together. you aren't gonna hurt your opponent if you aren't landing clean no matter how hard you throw. it's about accuracy not power.

              mccloskey didn't punch himself out he got caught with a counter left hook that sent him stumbling across the ring. it was hard to see because he landed his own punch and the crowd went crazy but you have to notice these subtle things. that's what separates a good judge from pierre benoist, chuck giampa and most of these other clowns.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                I just watched it and can't see how McCloskey won more than 4 rounds and was put down too early, clear jobbing here but I guess now Khan can keep trying to justify his ducking of Presoctt.
                No he didn't, you just hate white people!

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  Sheer agression? What the *** you on about? McCloskey is one of the least aggressive fighters out there. You're always on your high horse like you're some boxing connoisseur when all you do is cry about decisions or people ducking.
                  if he wasn't aggressive what was he doing pushing prescott back against the ropes? he couldn't box with him in the middle of the ring so he came forward and pushed him back the last 6 rounds or so. this obviously wins fighters rounds even if they are being outlanded and that's the point i'm making. you think they should win the round just for being tough. i think whoever wins using the official scoring criteria.
                  Last edited by daggum; 09-11-2011, 05:33 PM.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    Truth is I hate white goyim boxers, especially Celtic ones. My hatred makes me extremely biased, so I can't score fights in a reasonable way.
                    We know that about you, daggum.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      no it's actually my so called "bias" against guys who land clean punches. the rules of boxing have an emphasis on clean punches not blocked, deflected, or grazing punches(aka not clean punches). in the calzaghe-hopkins fight calzaghe wasn't landing clean punches at all so that was an easier fight to score. mccloskey was at least partially landing some grazing and deflected shots so that made the round closer but almost all the actual clean punches were landed by prescott and they were "harder" because he was landing "cleaner" the two go together. you aren't gonna hurt your opponent if you aren't landing clean no matter how hard you throw. it's about accuracy not power.

                      mccloskey didn't punch himself out he got caught with a counter left hook that sent him stumbling across the ring. it was hard to see because he landed his own punch and the crowd went crazy but you have to notice these subtle things. that's what separates a good judge from pierre benoist, chuck giampa and most of these other clowns.
                      I saw the left hook. I also saw Prescott mainly miss from then. Wild hard swings which miss and hitting McCloskey on the back of the head arent scoring punches Daggum...

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