Mayweather - It is obvious but I will ask anyway.

[LupinIII]

Asking for better testing for a fight, is now seen as discrediting.

Wow.

yeah i absolutely love how the single minded(its impressive really) fans have twisted the argument into floyd must be scared to ask for test. Even though Floyd would be taking the same test and if they pass there gonna be fighting.just kindergarden level rational and logic being displayed by them.

[ThePrince]

yeah i absolutely love how the single minded(its impressive really) fans have twisted the argument into floyd must be scared to ask for test. Even though Floyd would be taking the same test and if they pass there gonna be fighting.just kindergarden level rational and logic being displayed by them.

That's not what the OP is asking, is it? He wasn't questioning the validity of the request, but asking if Floyd thinks he can beat Pacquiao or not. Whether he thinks Manny is on A-Side Meth or not, it's clear he questions his ability to pull off the W. If he was so confident of Manny being 'easy work', he would've fought him like he fought his previous 40 opponents. Were PEDs invented only when it came time to make Pac-Floyd?

It's clear that the whole Mayweather clan is SHOOK of Pacquiao and never had and never will have any intention of putting Jr in the ring with him, test or no test. Just ask Haymon's boy George Peterson.

[hugh grant]

THe fact that FLoyd has even entertained the possiblity Pac was on Roids to beat Cotto, Margarito is out of order. Its basically jealousy pac beat people, people think Floyd should have fought.
Its all well and good and floyds choice if he chooses to duck cotto and Co. But dont then accuse people who are brave enough to beat them like pac was.

[LupinIII]

That's not what the OP is asking, is it? He wasn't questioning the validity of the request, but asking if Floyd thinks he can beat Pacquiao or not. Whether he thinks Manny is on A-Side Meth or not, it's clear he questions his ability to pull off the W. If he was so confident of Manny being 'easy work', he would've fought him like he fought his previous 40 opponents. Were PEDs invented only when it came time to make Pac-Floyd?

It's clear that the whole Mayweather clan is SHOOK of Pacquiao and never had and never will have any intention of putting Jr in the ring with him, test or no test. Just ask Haymon's boy George Peterson.

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[ThePrince]

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Great debating skills on display here folks

Just take the L and move on with some dignity.

[LupinIII]

Great debating skills on display here folks

Just take the L and move on with some dignity.

im sorry son but im not wasting time with this kindergarden logic. your post said exactly what i stated low logic and reasoning skills when handling these debates.

ill let you and expose(or whatever he is going by this week) diarrhea all over this thread. Entertain me though what was you guys sat scores?

[bayareamike]

yeah i absolutely love how the single minded(its impressive really) fans have twisted the argument into floyd must be scared to ask for test. Even though Floyd would be taking the same test and if they pass there gonna be fighting.just kindergarden level rational and logic being displayed by them.

Ok you're gonna speak on my post but not answer my question. What does pacquiao do now that makes you think he's on Peds.

Asking for better testing inst discrediting but the way Floyd did things especially with no proof and Floyd pretty much said pacquiao can't do what he's doing unless he's on roids, to me, that's discrediting. He has no proof. He basically came outta left field with all this jazz. You Floyd fans are in denial and Floyd lies so much he's obviously buying into his own lies.

[Mr. Ryan]

Same thing with Margarito,he's been using cement for years and many people knew it.This was the reason Mayweather refused to fight Margarito.The Mayweathers' life is in the gyms and they know so much.

How do you know that Margarito had been using cement for years? No one I knew talked about it, and I know some people who know Margarito and his camp.

[ThePrince]

im sorry son but im not wasting time with this kindergarden logic. your post said exactly what i stated low logic and reasoning skills when handling these debates.

ill let you and expose(or whatever he is going by this week) diarrhea all over this thread. Entertain me though what was you guys sat scores?

Man, shut the **** up. The OP asked if Floyd believes he can beat Pacquiao right now and the answer is a resounding no, plain and simple. This wasn't a theological debate about the merits or validity of out of left field, after 40 pro fights extra drug testing. Floyd does not think he can beat Pacquiao as is, right now. Whether he thinks it's because of A-Side Meth or the super soldier serum, he wants nothing to do with Manny Pacquiao and a boxing ring. His and his family's statements, and the previous (and forthcoming) 'vacations' are a testament to that.

Was drug testing also the reason he turned down fights with Cotto and Margarito? Like I said, Al Haymon's associate spilled the beans on Floyd's camp's decision not to fight Pacquiao long before the OST nonsense even reared it's head. They made the decision not to fight Pacquiao the night of the Cotto fight.

[cixthree]

A red flag to me is that pro boxer is trying to discredit another's accomplishments on pure speculation and accusation with no proof out of jealousy(it's obvious Floyd is/was jealous of manny with fighter of the decade and such, p4p #1).
Floyd suspecting/accusing Manny of maybe juicing didn't have anything to do with why people think Mannys juicing.
It is/was Mannys reaction to taking the test is whats got people questioning him.
I personally think he saw manny as competition not only as an opponent but as a person that can take away a lot of floyds revenue when manny built up his cash cow status. Red flag to me is someone retiring when there's genuine top grade opponents but rather retire rather than making millions after beating de la Hoya and being a cash cow and letting the top guys fight eachother while you watch on the sideline and come back after those top guys X eachother out
Wow, I'd think a red flag would be a guy declining a drug test in the drug era, but yours sounds way more ummmmm *******ED!!and to fight a blown up light weight who's never fought at that weight, WOW!
as well as not living up to his contract agreement(it's in the contract, honor it.. Especially fighting someone moving up two weight classes and you still come in 2lbs over the CONTRACTED weight).

I know you guys are only pretending to be clueless at this point, you said all that to say nothing.
It's simple....
Untested Manny is a problem going into the 9th round on, but a tested Manny? (Maybe that's the Manny Floyds talking about when he says "Easy work")