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Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostPlease, they ****ed that off 2 fights in a row & now this. Floyd was missing half the time Pacman has been a welterweight. He didn't unify anything. He didn't rid the world of Berto. He sat there & cherrypicked & now Floyd gets to stroll in on a magic carpet & tangle with a young prime champion while Pacman cherrypicks another 40 year old 2 weightclasses north of his last effective weight.
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Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostHa ha ha, wow. Seriously. Well let me tell you something bro. All that **** you posted has absolutely nothing to do with being prime...........dummy.
Quitted against Maidana
Draw against Peterson
UD against an overrated Berto....... and that's being prime!!
hahahaha.... you truly know sh.it about boxing dude....
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Juan Manuel Marquez it's too late. 140 or 144 you getting knocked out bad by Manny Pacquiao. He's already making excuses.
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140 woulda been better for JMM. We all saw hoe slow he was when he fought MAyweather at 145. 1 pound isn't going to make a difference. Seeing that he's only had one fight at 140, that looked... odd, I guess we can't say he'd win, but it might have been more competitive. Don't get me wrong, I'm expecting JMM to stick in this fight from bell to bell, but I do think Pacquaio to decisively handle him this time around, maybe even stop him late.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostThere you go Floyd naysayers. Marquez said weight had nothing to do with his loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr. The same thing we all said. It was pure boxing skill. Wasn't like Floyd was muscling Marquez around the ring. Curious to see what Pac fans have to say about this one. In regards to JMM wanting the fight at 140/141 and not 144. that was his fault for agreeing to it so suck it up and do what you got to do. Still think Marquez is going to be able to hang with Manny if he is patient and fights more technical then aggressive. Roach said the same thing.
- pac has fought bigger guys at 147 and beaten them with ease
- pac is no longer one dimesional
- pac is less of a brawler now, more boxing in and out and side to side
- as for marquez, the past marquez is the same marquez of the presentLast edited by indystress; 09-10-2011, 03:37 PM.
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Originally posted by skillswin View PostMarquez: pacquiao is more ez to hit and floyd is on another level...
i'm sure marquez know more about boxing than the ******* nation....
just look at what pac did to both delahoya and hatton (photos and videos dont lie) compared to how fraud did to these same two guys...and look what pac did to both cotto and margarito, two guys that fraud ducked.
funny how fraud fans like to use the fraud/marquez vs pac/marquez comparison...but not what happened between pac and fraud vs hatton and delahoyaLast edited by indystress; 09-10-2011, 03:43 PM.
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At this early stage Juan Manuel Marquez seems to be making excuses already. He is the challenger and he knows that they are fighting at 144 lbs. because that is the weight level that Manny Pacquiao is presently in...and JMM is now making excuses. What a ****** cry baby...that is what you asked for, that is what you get.
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Manny has left more questions than answers......
Pac-fans are just ignorant ***** ****s who dont know **** about boxing.
A catch-weight bout is where two fighters who compete in different divisions meet at middle-ground in order to produce a fairer contest.
Middle-ground is 140, you ignorant clowns.
It is funny-as-*** that pacroid has " conceded " a weight that he has never actually made himself
And this is after Koncz admitted that Manny ducked Marquez for three years, and after Manny admitted that 140 is his best fighting weight.
It is CLEARLY OBVIOUS what is going on, Marquez is getting setup.
It is absolutely impossible for Pacquiao to have dragged Marquez further out of his comfort zone.
There is nothing great about Pacquiao, he is feeding on old men, faded champions, and bums..... and he is either catching them on the down-slide, disadvantaging them on the scale, or manipulating contractual advantages.
Pacquiao is barely hof-worthy.
Had he fought back in the old days when there was only one champion, no catch-weights, under the original divisions, using same-day weigh-ins, he would likely only be a 1-2 division champ, at best.
The last prime champion that Pac fought beat him, and the previous champ who beat Pac wasnt even prime. I dont see nothing there.
There are dozens of great fighters who were very successful going up and fighting as the smaller man..... they did not cherry-pick the easiest champion, fighting old men, manipulating advantages, using catch-weights..... they would fight anyone.
Pacquiao simply will not do that, and according to common-sense, he is likely a steroid cheat as well.
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FACT: Pacquiao has only ever fought two welterweights at 147, one was an old man, and the other was a bum..... neither were ranked higher than 4, and neither should have been ranked in the top 5.
FACT: Pac would not fight a faded shop-worn Cotto without a catch-weight.
FACT: Ortiz has achieved more at welter than Pacquiao, because he beat a legit #3, Manny has never done that. Berto > Clottey, and the Mosley that Pacquiao fought.
Pacquiao is a hypejob man, he has tip-toed through the tulips, due to superb match-making, masterful timing, and the manipulation of advantages..... his resume is manufactured.
" a good fighter will look great, if he holds all of the advantages "
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Back in the day, it is highly unlikely that Pac would have won a title at fly or welter. And at fw/lw he would have had to fight the very best, using same-day weigh-in, no catchweights, and no contractual manipulations.
Now, you may insist to me that Pacquiao COULD have done all that ?
My question is, then why the *** didnt he ?
Why is he fighting old men and bums who are mostly coming off losses ?
Why the catch-weights ?
Why the contractual manipulations if he is supposedly a P4P fighter ?
Your " Pac is an ATG " theory, requires a ****load of faith, which is rubbish.
Your theory requires that.....
* Pac could have beaten JMM in a rematch at 130, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten Raheem, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten the best lightweight, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten the best JWW, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten Cotto at 147, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten a genuine JMW, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten Mosley when he was #1, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten Mayweather, even though he did not
* Pac could have tested clean for steroids, even though he did not
Sooooooooooo many " coulds "
Certainly, way too many for a truly great fighter.
Great fighters leave more answers than questions, Manny has left more questions than answers.
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