Seriously Ortiz will not beat mayweather, tailor made opponent.

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  • Russian Crushin
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    #11
    Ortiz is big, strong and powerful....thats about it

    His punches are pretty wide, he will be easy to counter and he doesnt like to get hit. When he gets hit by Floyds unseen counters he will be broken down mentally

    Ortiz basically has a punchers chance....but who doesnt

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    • street bully
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      #12
      Originally posted by Fooly Cooly
      Agree with your whole post plus:

      1) Mosley was never that good to begin with
      2) He was shot to dust and couldn't punch when he fought Floyd
      Homeboy, mosley was shot, but mosley from a few years ago was better than Ortiz ever was

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        #13
        Originally posted by Russian Crushin
        Ortiz is big, strong and powerful....thats about it

        His punches are pretty wide, he will be easy to counter and he doesnt like to get hit. When he gets hit by Floyds unseen counters he will be broken down mentally

        Ortiz basically has a punchers chance....but who doesnt
        Paulie Maliginaggi?

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          #14
          Originally posted by street bully
          Homeboy, mosley was shot, but mosley from a few years ago was better than Ortiz ever was
          I disagree. Mosley hasn't looked good since beating Oscar in 2001.

          He struggled with Raul Marquez, Jose Luis Cruz, Collazo, David Estrada, lost to Cotto, barely beat a shotter than hell Mayorga, couldn't even win a round vs. Wright,Pac and Floyd and got destroyed by Forrest.

          With the exception of beating Margarito under dubious circumstances and k.o'ing a way done Vargas, he's been mediocre fights for years.

          I was never impressed with him tbh.

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            #15
            Originally posted by dj Raccoon
            Paulie Maliginaggi?
            Hmmmm

            Maybe Fernando David Saucedo

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            • street bully
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              #16
              Originally posted by Fooly Cooly
              I disagree. Mosley hasn't looked good since beating Oscar in 2001.

              He struggled with Raul Marquez, Jose Luis Cruz, Collazo, David Estrada, lost to Cotto, barely beat a shotter than hell Mayorga, couldn't even win a round vs. Wright,Pac and Floyd and got destroyed by Forrest.

              With the exception of beating Margarito under dubious circumstances and k.o'ing a way done Vargas, he's been mediocre fights for years.

              I was never impressed with him tbh.
              Welcome back bro lol.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Fooly Cooly
                I disagree. Mosley hasn't looked good since beating Oscar in 2001.

                He struggled with Raul Marquez, Jose Luis Cruz, Collazo, David Estrada, lost to Cotto, barely beat a shotter than hell Mayorga, couldn't even win a round vs. Wright,Pac and Floyd and got destroyed by Forrest.

                With the exception of beating Margarito under dubious circumstances and k.o'ing a way done Vargas, he's been mediocre fights for years.

                I was never impressed with him tbh.
                Any of those wins are better then a Berto win

                Mosley has only lost to basically the P4P best

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                  #18
                  Man you are way overrating Floyd and making him into some invincible fighter. I'm not saying Ortiz is gonna win but every dog has his day and Ortiz does have a chance as slim as it may be.

                  I think Oscar made a good point (event though he was just talking ish and trying to hype Ortiz up) when he said look at all of Floyds last opponents in the last 5 years or so. All old, smaller, and/or past their best years, now he's in there with a hungry and strong 24 year old trying to make a huge statement. Add that to Floyd being 34 and coming off a long layoff (again). At the very least all these factors make for an interesting fight.

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                  • street bully
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                    Any of those wins are better then a Berto win

                    Mosley has only lost to basically the P4P best
                    Pretty much. Seriously I think a 154 Wright would be able to beat floyd quite easily, too bad he was avoided by everyone except by a guy bigger than him.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Fooly Cooly
                      Agree with your whole post plus:

                      1) Mosley was never that good to begin with
                      2) He was shot to dust and couldn't punch when he fought Floyd
                      Good look... Mosley was that good, but he's the type that didn't/doesn't know what to do if he couldn't outbox his opponent from the outside. I agree though, he was basically done by the time he fought Floyd.
                      Originally posted by street bully
                      I get what you're saying but Ortiz is not that strong. mosley is definitely stronger than him, and he couldn't outmuscle floyd inside. Ortiz will get beat very badly. I think it will be a mayweather exhibition culminating in a tko.
                      Mosley can't fight on the inside so his strength was for nothing. All he used his strength for was to continuously (and successfully) hold; Ortiz will use it to keep pushing Floyd back the way he did to Berto (Berto's not bad in the strength department and he couldn't take much of a forward step).

                      I see Ortiz winning at least a 3rd of the fight, so I don't see an exhibition, but I can see Mayweather getting a TKO after a grueling and close fight.

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