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  • Originally posted by puga View Post
    who said floyd is like margo or clottey......pac is'nt like sugar shane or baldomir either....whatever the point of you saying that, i dont know...

    and the bolded, thats exactly what will happen if floyd chooses to fight in a close range....like some people claim floyd will fight vs pac...

    anyway, carry on...
    when and if the fight happens all my points vs all yours and the loser gets banned for 6 months?

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    • Originally posted by Since 1985 View Post
      Manny needs to get close enough to land first. He has a reach disadvantage. He better move his head when coming in or he will get tagged.
      Mannys reach 67


      Shanes 71
      Margaritos 73
      Clotteys 70


      I don't think he has a problem getting close enough.

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      • Originally posted by Ea$y Money View Post
        Mannys reach 67


        Shanes 71
        Margaritos 73
        Clotteys 70


        I don't think he has a problem getting close enough.
        He don't. The problem is, the best way to use your reach advantage properly against a shorter/smaller guy is by keeping your distance, and wait for him to rushing in to get to you and then just pull back and catch him with your longer reach advantage, and you gotta have good to great timing to pull it off as well.

        All three of those guys above had the reach advantage, and while Mosley did used distance, he didn't threw his jabs sharply nor effectively, and didn't counter-punched Manny when he had plenty of openings. The other two just stood and close punches range, and allowed Manny to rotated around them whenever he wanted to.
        Last edited by Carpe Diem; 09-05-2011, 06:35 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Carpe Diem View Post
          And that's why JMM got caught most of the times. He waited enough to had the opportunity to countered Manny, but at that instant, he got inpatient enough to put himself at risk against a much faster Boxer. Nacho Beristain recently brought this subject up about how JMM wasn't patient enough, and anyone who has watched those two fights especially the second would know that.

          At the end of the day, Floyd is so much more of an accurate puncher than JMM that it won't be that much of an disadvantage if he doesn't follow up after he counter-punches Manny few times.
          yeah, but thats how jmm got some sucess either......jmm really knows how to beat pac but his physically is the main problem.....jmm got most of his succes by boxing WITH pac not by boxing him...i agree when jmm said that you have to fight at pac's rythm and pick your shots instaed of trying to break his rythm.....floyd is more accurate and fast than jmm but they are two diffrenet fighters.....
          Last edited by puga; 09-05-2011, 06:38 PM.

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          • Originally posted by borgata View Post
            when and if the fight happens all my points vs all yours and the loser gets banned for 6 months?
            tell floyd to man up fist then we'll talk about betting...dont want bet on some fight that might not happen at all.....

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            • Originally posted by puga View Post
              yeah, but how jmm got some sucess either......jmm really knows how to beat pac but his physically is the main problem.....jmm got most of his succes by boxing WITH pac not by boxing him...i agree when jmm said that you have to fight at pac's rythm and pick your shots instaed of trying to break his rythm.....floyd is more accurate and fast than jmm but they are two diffrenet fighters.....
              Of course they are. And just like Manny, Floyd has the ability to control his opponents rhythm and neutralizes their offense to keep the fight at the pace he wants it to be. We don't know if Manny is gonna be capable of forcing Floyd to fight at the fighting pace that he wants or vice versa.

              We've seen how vulnerable Manny is when his opponents uses lateral movement and it forced him to had his punches output reduced. We've seen how Floyd has dealt against pressure Boxers, but most of them that he has had hard times with were much bigger guys who knew how to used their size effectively well against him.
              Last edited by Carpe Diem; 09-05-2011, 06:49 PM.

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              • Originally posted by puga View Post
                tell floyd to man up fist then we'll talk about betting...dont want bet on some fight that might not happen at all.....
                mmmmhhhhmmmmmmm

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                • It's one thing to have the size and reach advantages, but it's another to use those advantages effectively well against smaller/shorter Boxers.

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                  • Originally posted by Carpe Diem View Post
                    Of course they are. And just like Manny, Floyd has the ability to control his opponents rhythm and neutralizing their offenses to keep the fight at the pace he wants it to be. We don't know if Manny is gonna be capable of forcing Floyd to fight at the fighting pace that he wants or vice versa.

                    We've seen how vulnerable Manny is when his opponents uses lateral movement and it forces him to have his punches output reduce. We've seen how Floyd has dealt against pressure Boxers, but most of them that he has had hard times with were much better guys who knew how to used their size effectively well against him.
                    yes, but we've seen how floyd stuggle vs guys who pressure him either (castillo and chavez) and how his punches reduced with his already not much output (baldomir)...combined the nonstop pressure with a southpaw stance and it's a bigger nightmare for floyd...

                    i can agree with the bolded..

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                    • Floyd will have no problem easily avoiding Paq's left

                      By never getting in the ring with him. Paq would be at a slight reach disadvantage if Floyd did get in the ring with him, but he wont, and Paq cant punch all the way to Floyd sitting on his couch watching Paq fight someone else. Floyd will avoid the straight left by staying miles away from it.

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