berto vs mike jones

[Leohappy]

khan is right now imo, the only one with the tools to beat the floyd's cat&mouse game in the ring. you don't need to be a super puncher or have a granite chin to beat floyd.
berto def. a no hoper, jones haven't seen much of him against top dogs, zavec well he has tight defense and good punch accuracy, not sure how floyd would work that tight high guard. body shots would get him exposed. he'd prolly have to use the superior footwork and search for angles.
ps: i don't give a damn what dan rafael says tbh.

[Leopard Fist]

Leohappy is just an angry hater that's bitter at the fact that Jan Zaveck got his ass kicked and then quit like a little *****.

[IronDanHamza]

The bold Iron dan. Real welterweights have no chance again Floyd & Manny. That's why the fights haven't happened. That's why Marquez & Mosley & fighters with even more of a disadvantage got the call to fight right? Then he goes on to say the Khan, a jr welterweight with no credentials at 147, who's been ko'd, has stamina issues & when he throws in combination, hangs his chin off of the sears tower has a really good chance at beating Floyd. But conveniently doesn't mention Pacman. Well I don't by that. Young, strong welterweights if given a chance can compete will Floyd & Manny. Will they win, I don't know, but they have a better chance of beating them than a flawed star jr welterweight does.

And how old is Jan Zaveck?

He's not overly strong either.

So that instantly put's a gaping hole in your theory.

I think Khan has much more of a chance than Jan Zaveck does, and Andre Berto.

All of those guys most likely won't beat either Pac or Mayweather but some of them have some what of a chance but Jan Zaveck does not.

[Heeb]

Leohappy is just an angry hater that's bitter at the fact that Jan Zaveck got his ass kicked and then quit like a little *****.

Yes, yelling at your corner, telling them you want to continue is quitting like a little bitch.

[Leopard Fist]

Yes, yelling at your corner, telling them you want to continue is quitting like a little bitch.

[Froghead99]

Khan definitely has the best chance to beat May, far better than freakin Berto or Ortiz. Berto is severly over-rated, and Zavek was starting to outbox Berto pretty easily. Witout the cut, Zavek would;ve beaten Berto, it was pretty clear to see.

Khan has an excellent resume, and has out boxed some excellent boxers. And stamina and chin issues? Some people are just ******ed. When did Khan have stamina issues?

And Khan is the only person to never be dropped by Maidana, yet he has chin issues. Okay. Love him or hate him, Khan is the best potential opponent for May, other than Pac. But after Khans demolition of Zab, I doubt May wants that fight, as proved by his recent comments.

[Bushbaby]

And how old is Jan Zaveck?

He's not overly strong either.

So that instantly put's a gaping hole in your theory.

I think Khan has much more of a chance than Jan Zaveck does, and Andre Berto.

All of those guys most likely won't beat either Pac or Mayweather but some of them have some what of a chance but Jan Zaveck does not.

I presume that you assume I mean punching power, I don't. I mean strength. He was pushing a 160 lb Berto off of him like he was benching a broomstick. I saw that if you didn't get glasses. The dude is strong, physically. The age I reffered to wasn't strickly for Zavek, it was more for all they young fighters at 147 that people like you feel have absolutely no chance against the top 2. But your theory about Zaveck being weak, does nothing to prove my theory of him being strong untrue. That's a fact.

[Froghead99]

Yes, yelling at your corner, telling them you want to continue is quitting like a little bitch.

Yea, obviously Zavek did not quit, he was dying to continue to fight. I think they should've cut his bruise open and bandaged it. Yea, its risky, but its worth the occasion.

Clearly Zavek was starting to get the better of Berto, you could see Berto gassing, and Zavek countering and outboxing him.

[GoogleMe]

I got Jones killing Berto

[IronDanHamza]

I presume that you assume I mean punching power, I don't. I mean strength. He was pushing a 160 lb Berto off of him like he was benching a broomstick. I saw that if you didn't get glasses. The dude is strong, physically. The age I reffered to wasn't strickly for Zavek, it was more for all they young fighters at 147 that people like you feel have absolutely no chance against the top 2. But your theory about Zaveck being weak, does nothing to prove my theory of him being strong untrue. That's a fact.

No I don't presume you mean punching power.

I said he's not overly strong, because he's not.

It doesn't matter what you're referring to, you're saying that all these young strong fighters would have a chance against Mayweather or Pac and put Jan Zaveck in that catergory in which he does not fit that description.

Zaveck isn't weak, but he certainly isn't strong.

And let's face it, Zaveck's a good guy and I like him but he is in his mid 30's and has done nothing in his career. And pretty much beaten no one of note.

And claiming he has a chance against Mayweather or Pac is frankly a ****** ideology. In reality he stands no chance what so ever.

And on top of that he doesn't fit the ' young, strong' catergory you're putting so much emphasis on either.

You should stop critisizing Pac and Mayweather's opponent choice for a while and stop talking about average fighters that could beat them and put all that energy into Sergio Martinez' choice of opponet which happens to be worse than Mayweather and Pacquaio's last 5 fights combined.