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  • #41
    Originally posted by street bully View Post
    Please gtfo with that compubox nonsense. Say what you want about the first fight, but the majority of the good posters here have been saying for years that marquez looked to have beat Pacquaio in the rematch. I had it 115-112 for marquez.
    who are these good posters?
    its their opinion vs opinion of others
    compubox stats dont lie,
    scoring by judges do
    in the rematch, pac won 6 rounds at 10-9 scores
    marquez won 5 rounds at 10-9 scores
    pac won 1 round at 10-8 (round 3 for the knockdown)

    how did you come to 115-112 for marquez? you and the judge that gave marquez the 115-112 are the same people that gave fraud the win over castillo in fight #1...that fight was more contreversial than both pac/marquez fight
    Last edited by indystress; 09-05-2011, 01:08 AM.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by indystress View Post
      who are these good posters?
      its their opinion vs opinion of others
      compubox stats dont lie,
      scoring by judges do
      in the rematch, pac won 6 rounds at 10-9 scores
      marquez won 5 rounds at 10-9 scores
      pac won 1 round at 10-8 (round 3 for the knockdown)

      how did you come to 115-112 for marquez? you and the judge that gave marquez the 115-112 are the same people that gave fraud the win over castillo in fight #1...that fight was more contreversial than both pac/marquez fight
      Listen I don't give a flying ****, and wont argue this late. I made a thread on this a year or two ago, go find it and read through it. It breaks down exactly how I scored every round in the scrap. Now stfu.

      Using compubox to score a fight, lol the nerve of some boxing fans today.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by street bully View Post
        Listen I don't give a flying ****, and wont argue this late. I made a thread on this a year or two ago, go find it and read through it. It breaks down exactly how I scored every round in the scrap. Now stfu.

        Using compubox to score a fight, lol the nerve of some boxing fans today.
        relax bro-man. be civilized. as for the compubox, i dont need a compubox stat to score a fight...because i had pac winning both fights against marquez without the compubox stat...i just put up the compubox stat to back up the two wins i gave pac over marquez...compubox stats are good tool to use when judging a winner of a fight...especially when you have corrupt judges as the ones that scored williams the winner over lara....again, compubox stats dont lie, its the judges that do...

        STREET BULLY = MR HIGH BLOOD lol ;o)

        hhmm, maybe you came from the corrupt school of scoring???
        Last edited by indystress; 09-05-2011, 01:22 AM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
          He has a contract to sell the fight you think he is going to harp on the weight Im sure Arum would have words with him , he already said its was an issue during the negotiation , bottom line is he is a 135 fighter and Pac FORCED him to accept 144 or no fight , it is an issue the fight will reveal how much , or do you think Roach did this for fun , all the while saying how easy it is for Pac to make 140 , the CW is all about slowing JMM down a little and that will effectively make all the difference to a counter puncher , but Roach knows that .
          You make it seem like JMM has to make 144.. I think you mean Pac forced JMM to fight at welterweight. JMM then asked for a CW, and Pac gave him 3 pounds. The CW is in JMM's favor. The weight they fight in is not. But, no, Pac never forced JMM to do anything. JMM has been crying about their first two fights for years, and it just so happens that Pac needed a big-name opponent so he gave JMM a shot. This isn't about trying to slow down JMM, its about wanting to stay in WW. If you were Pac, would you, in your right mind, move from your most comfortable weight class to fight someone you believe you already beat?, when you know you call the shots? Well, I wouldn't.
          Try not to be a hater. There's big money here but Boxing is still just a sport, you don't always have to go all conspiracy on it...

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Dale Cardon View Post
            Some nut huggers and haters insist there is a weight issue.
            They know better than the fighter himself.
            Yes because boxers always talk down there chances before an up coming bout....

            Everybody knows JMM is ineffective above 135lbs and there is no evidence in the slightest to suggest otherwise that’s not hating or any other nonsense that’s just an obvious observation.

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            • #46
              He's making weight by drinking his own piss. That's one nasty Frijole. Don't worry though, JMM is going to lose like the last two times before and retire after he gets the beat down of his life for talking smack!

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              • #47
                Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
                or maybe Manny and Roach was the scared b!tches for NOT fighting him when he was still a lil' bit fresher...scared b!tches waited to see that the old warrior had nothing to offer....call a spade a ****in spade man!!!....I guess Ali was a scared b!tch in ya book against Holmes and Berbick as well huh?!?
                Damn, that was ****ing harsh. I bet he doesn't even realize how much you just owned him, sold him, re-owned him and threw him on the street right after bytch slapping him like a pimp does to his hoe.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by indystress View Post
                  relax bro-man. be civilized. as for the compubox, i dont need a compubox stat to score a fight...because i had pac winning both fights against marquez without the compubox stat...i just put up the compubox stat to back up the two wins i gave pac over marquez...compubox stats are good tool to use when judging a winner of a fight...especially when you have corrupt judges as the ones that scored williams the winner over lara....again, compubox stats dont lie, its the judges that do...

                  STREET BULLY = MR HIGH BLOOD lol ;o)

                  hhmm, maybe you came from the corrupt school of scoring???
                  No, he was correct, you are an idiot for peddling compubox stats.

                  I have never met anyone who thought that Pacquiao won the second fight, except a few folks who are obviously flag-waving fanboys who most likely did not actually see the fight

                  Most analysts gave the win to Marquez, and most by more than 2 points.

                  Guys like Sugar, Bernstein, etc, all gave Marquez the win.....

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by MidBoss View Post
                    You make it seem like JMM has to make 144.. I think you mean Pac forced JMM to fight at welterweight. JMM then asked for a CW, and Pac gave him 3 pounds. The CW is in JMM's favor. The weight they fight in is not. But, no, Pac never forced JMM to do anything. JMM has been crying about their first two fights for years, and it just so happens that Pac needed a big-name opponent so he gave JMM a shot. This isn't about trying to slow down JMM, its about wanting to stay in WW. If you were Pac, would you, in your right mind, move from your most comfortable weight class to fight someone you believe you already beat?, when you know you call the shots? Well, I wouldn't.
                    Try not to be a hater. There's big money here but Boxing is still just a sport, you don't always have to go all conspiracy on it...
                    Pacquiao is a joke.

                    A catch-weight is where two fighters meet at middle-ground in order to produce a fairer contest.

                    Wake up you clown, middle ground is 140.

                    It is a joke that padded Pacquiao has "conceded" a weight that he has never actually made himself

                    And this is AFTER Manny himself admitted that his natural, and most comfortable, fighting weight is 140.

                    It would be impossible for Pacquiao to drag Marquez further away from his comfort zone.

                    WAKE UP YOU FKN IGNORANT PAC-CLOWNS.

                    Manny " padded " Pacquiao is doing exactly the same thing to Marquez that he has done for most of his recent resume'..... Pac's resume' is built on timing (guys who are old, vulnerable, coming off a loss), and the manipulation of advantages (catch-weights, re-hydration clauses, glove size, etc).

                    A great fighter would win in the ring, not on the scales or around the negotiating table.

                    What a fkn hypejob that Pacquiao kid is.

                    And... oh ****, I forgot to mention... whats up with refusing blood tests?

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                    • #50
                      Whether he drinks his own piss or not fight fans lets face he is the only one who has given pac a decent fight in how many years?? No doubt in my mind it will.be another close and exciting fight don't look past jmm

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