Berto-Zavec, cuts caused by headbutts?

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  • J Dubb II 330
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    #21
    That "headbutt" caused swelling under the eye, there was no bleeding after the ref separated them, then another upper landed, then Lampley points out Berto has swelling and Zaveck has a cut as Berto lands two more big shots which really opened, Zaveck had a similar smaller cut under his left eye brow from punches. Stop trying to discredit a win, hbo, the ref nor Zaveck acknowledged a headbutt.
    Oh watch Maidana -Morales, Morales eye is closed after the first after a Maidana upper

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    • Russian Crushin
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      #22
      Watching it live i couldnt believe a punch did that to his face in a span of 2 min. especially when nothing hard was really landing for berto

      After watching the replay, it was a headbutt

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      • fitefanSHO
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        #23
        I did not think they were headbutts when watching live.

        I have seen some replays and they are at best, inconclusive.

        Zaveck did not say anything about headbutts after the fight.

        IMO, the cuts were caused by punches.

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        • Steak
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          #24
          Originally posted by steak
          first off, no, im not here to 'discredit' berto or 'make excuses', get that out of your head.

          its just that those cuts were really nasty, and seemed to come almost out of nowhere. You usually see that kind of facial damage caused so quickly because of a clash of heads.


          I wouldve really liked to see the fight continue, but obviously it couldnt have in zavecs condition. Poor guy was so upset that the fight had to be stopped, and honestly i dont blame him. I thought the fight was starting to turn his way, and its definitely not like he was being outclassed, he was landing some flush shots on berto from the getgo.

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          Originally posted by j dubb ii 330
          that "headbutt" caused swelling under the eye, there was no bleeding after the ref separated them, then another upper landed, then lampley points out berto has swelling and zaveck has a cut as berto lands two more big shots which really opened, zaveck had a similar smaller cut under his left eye brow from punches. stop trying to discredit a win, hbo, the ref nor zaveck acknowledged a headbutt.oh watch maidana -morales, morales eye is closed after the first after a maidana upper
          sigh.


          YOU ARE A ****ING MORON

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          • Lazlow
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            #25
            Too bad it was such a nasty cut. Headbutt or not, it could have been a great fight. Looking at the post fight stats, Zavec outlanded Berto both in power punches and total punches. Berto was definitely more effective, but Zavec stood his ground and fought back. Since Zavec would step his activity up in the 2nd half of the fight, it would have been a slugfest.

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            • viperz007
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              #26


              if u look at berto he looked like a freaking rhino

              cut was from punches

              swelling was from the head butt
              but looks like accidentall butt

              my opinion

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              • Medved
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                #27
                Originally posted by J Dubb II 330
                That "headbutt" caused swelling under the eye, there was no bleeding after the ref separated them, then another upper landed, then Lampley points out Berto has swelling and Zaveck has a cut as Berto lands two more big shots which really opened, Zaveck had a similar smaller cut under his left eye brow from punches. Stop trying to discredit a win, hbo, the ref nor Zaveck acknowledged a headbutt.
                Oh watch Maidana -Morales, Morales eye is closed after the first after a Maidana upper
                Because Zaveck has class. and he said on Slovenian TV that it was a HEADBUTT

                Zaveck had a Cut on his EYEBROW that was from a punch, that cut was contained, his eye was FINE, until, Berto put his head down and RUSHED into Zaveck, as seen here. I never seen a "punch" do that amount of damage in so little time, especially as Berto was dead tired.

                As soon as Berto headbutts him twice (in the nose and in the eye) Zaveck cringes in PAIN.




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                • MUNG
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by NutsInTheyFace
                  Which ones? Ordinarily HBO would find the punch that did the damage but the only thing they showed looked su****iously like a headbutt.

                  I thought it was odd that HBO didn't even consider the fact that it might have been a headbutt. Maybe it was cos usually the other fighter alerts people to the fact that he was butted, but still.....
                  Because there american what would you expect

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                  • americanbot
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                    #29
                    lol @ zavecs CREAMY EURO BUM PIZZA FACE...............

                    if i were euros i would stick to competing in a fat slop dead division rather then go to classes like middleweight/welterweight (places where it's alive & pumping)

                    look at what donaire did to Volodymyr (creamy euro bum pizza face)

                    look at what martinez did to Dzinziruk (ko'd him)

                    look at what berto did to Zaveck (creamy euro bum pizza face)

                    it makes my c*ck hard just to watch the creamy euro bum pizza face..............

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                    • Leohappy
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                      #30
                      zavec is not a guy to bring out excuses like US boxers like to do. he knows it's pointless. the facts say everything. zavec lost. it was a headbutt. the ref saw nothing. animations show everything.

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