remember this is the first time floyd is fighting a "prime" fighter in 4 years

**AntonTheMeh** · 09-03-2011, 04:55 PM

okay. thanks.

**Paclan** · 09-03-2011, 05:05 PM

ortiz is about 2 years from his prime

**BoxingFollower** · 09-03-2011, 05:08 PM

So when was the last time Pacquiao fought a prime fighter???? Majority of boxing fans, not *******, believe that it was Miguel Cotto

Ricky Hatton - admitted that he no longer had it
Delahoya - drained and said he no longer has it
Clottey - just a pay day and didn't care to fight back
Margarito - not even ranked
Mosley - the SAME guy that Roach, Arum and Pac fans called old when he fought Mayweather and Mora.

**ny123** · 09-03-2011, 05:13 PM

Rewatch this prime dangerous fighters last 3 fights before he fought the atg Berto and then bet the ***ing house on Floyd.

**1nonlymre** · 09-03-2011, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by BoxingFollower

So when was the last time Pacquiao fought a prime fighter???? Majority of boxing fans, not *******, believe that it was Miguel Cotto

Ricky Hatton - admitted that he no longer had it
Delahoya - drained and said he no longer has it
Clottey - just a pay day and didn't care to fight back
Margarito - not even ranked
Mosley - the SAME guy that Roach, Arum and Pac fans called old when he fought Mayweather and Mora.

Wow, a little defensive, don't you think?
The TS threw out an intangible, nothing more.
Now Ortiz may or may not be in his prime, but he sure is a "live" fighter who is comfortable at the WW level.
Turns out Mosley wasn't so "live" anymore and Marquez was not comfortable. This was shown in exaggeration by Mayweather. That's what he does to fighters who aren't at their best.
This intangible of Ortiz is a valid one. No need to take it as a need to defendant Floyd with Pacquiao opponents.

**jazluvr** · 09-03-2011, 05:14 PM

I'm not really a Floyd fan, but i respect what skills has has as a boxer. He always keeps in shape, trains hard, and i see this fight being fairly easy for him. Ortiz (imo) is being hyped just a bit since his last win. Floyd is way above this kids class, as is Pac. Pac, Floyd, Martinez and Ward are the guys to beat now.

**BoxingFollower** · 09-03-2011, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by 1nonlymre

Wow, a little defensive, don't you think?
The TS threw out an intangible, nothing more.
Now Ortiz may or may not be in his prime, but he sure is a "live" fighter who is comfortable at the WW level.
Turns out Mosley wasn't so "live" anymore and Marquez was not comfortable. This was shown in exaggeration by Mayweather. That's what he does to fighters who aren't at their best.
This intangible of Ortiz is a valid one. No need to take it as a need to defendant Floyd with Pacquiao opponents.

Dude just give it up. Ortiz is clearly in his prime, or even he hasn't reached his prime yet.

Either way, he's not SHOT, NOT OLD, and NOT DRAINED!!

So good pick by Mayweather!!

**uoykcuf** · 09-03-2011, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by BrazilNewshki

remember that before placeing your bets.

Remember that Ortiz and Berto are overrated. Zaveck will probably school Berto tonight but not win a decision in America. If you want to be rich, bet on Floyd. Bet your freaking house on him, and you'll be rich. Floyd ain't no Hatton, if Floyd was Hatton Ortiz would have a punchers chance.

**BoxingFollower** · 09-03-2011, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by LegendOfLink

Remember that Ortiz and Berto are overrated. Zaveck will probably school Berto tonight but not win a decision in America.

Ummm so is Calzaghe, dude only fought OLD and SHOT fighters!! Never faced anyone that was a threat, and not only that he was FLOORED by both old and shot fighters.

remember this is the first time floyd is fighting a "prime" fighter in 4 years