Mayweather is great, but...

[Specialist6]

I tend to feel that the people who do not box/very into boxing are the ones who cannot appreciate floyd mayweather.

I was watching the haye V klitchko fight with my cousin and his frends. They called it a boring fight. I quite liked it. Especially how towards the end haye started utilizing a high guard and how wlad started to take away and block hayes overhand right.

My cousins and couldnt pick that up. As the casual boxing fan cant. They look for knock outs , big punches and bloodshed.

I watched the Floyd VS spadafora sparring for the first time the other day. I was impressed from get go. From round begginning of round 1 floyd shows a perfect stance and movement.

The first right hand he threw was magic. Absolute magic. He set it up beautifully. He placed his head into the centre line / direct angle of spadaforas straight left down the pipe for a split second until he sensed hesitation, then let he let the right hand go like a rocket!

His skills and knowledge of the game is ridiculous. His mental game is ridiculous. His mental strength is ridiculous.

Example: hes just been punched in the balls and hit in the back of the head by zab judah. his uncle and his team are involved in a huge scuffle with zab judahs dad and his team inside the ring!

From all that drama and chaos floyd smiles and embraces zab judah and continues to fight in upmost sportsmanship fashion. Say what you want but that kind of composure and mental strength is second to NONE and its what gives floyd a huge advantage over his opponents.

Rocked by Mosley? you betcha. He came out the 2nd round and put a beating on Shane. Instantaneously switched. Mental strength brother, its something he has lots of and its one of the most important aspects of boxing.




http://coxscorner.tripod.com/boxingskill.html

great article by the way about what a true boxer is.....i have to show this to my cousins thank you

[i_am_a_champ]

@SaintDJT:
Dont get me wrong, some fighters are also exciting to watch .. i.e the pacman. i understand what your saying about intensity. One of the best fights ive watched is Gatti VS Ward I. That intensity strikes my heart too. I think there are different levels to what people want to feel from a boxing match.

I really admire all boxers. The ones that i enjoy watching are the ones who make me go "wow" with their boxing skills and feats inside the ring due to cleverness and cunningness and knowledge of the game. Its one reason i really want to watch fights of Sam langford and Harry Greb, two guys who fought and defeated guys who were heavyweights and these guys were middle weights at best if i remember correctly.

Id wonder just what in the world are they doing in order to gain leverage over their opponents and how they are sub duing them. With boxing every step counts. It really is like chess. I prefer a skilled technician over physicallity, up to a certain point of all. Boxing implements all the elements and needs them all, i feel imo.

I like to see creativity too and effective use of style , flair and boxing technique and how one overcomes his opponent in the ring and by what means.

I have friends who are really annoying when it comes to boxing. they are hard core nut huggers of certain boxers so their passion gets in the way of their thinking.

And a lot of boxing fans are actually fans of BIG FIGHTS and not BOXING. They will watch the odd fight that is the current hype media wise.
A fan of boxing loves the sport and watchs as much as they can. Thats the difference.

But yeh, some people enjoy that intensity. Depends how they percieve the sport. I really do think everyone should box or get inside the ring even if its sparring at your local gym. It helps put thinks into a little more perspective when one realizes how different it is when ur in there and it surely helps increasing the awareness of watching boxing!
!!!!!

[sicko]

not his fault that his talent level as well as his in ring IQ was/is higher then everybody in his ERA

it is not Mayweather job to ALLOW HIS OPPONENT TO DO WELL AGAINST HIM...it is his opponents job to try and make him fight a different fight and try and penetrated that defense


some fans act as if they want him to "LET HIS OPPONENT HIT HIM SO THE FIGHT CAN BE MORE ENTERTAINING"...Boxing don't work like that, guys are Warriors and take punches in the fact...NOT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE...but because they are not bless, with the speed, athleticism or the reflexes of the other fighters who can "GET OUT OF THE WAY OF A PUNCH"

but fans want everybody to "FIGHT LIKE A WARRIOR" but that is not BOXING...that is BRAWLING, if I want to see that then I will go watch a UFC BOUT

[i_am_a_champ]

specialist6: no probs bro. there are some really great articles on that sight. its bloody marvelous!

[Phil Ivey]

Don't think you have a case for questioning his heart and soul either, he's been in a few grueling fights that he's given nothing less than 100%. He's not one of your favorite fighters we get it? What exactly do you want us to say? Everyone has their own opinions. Personally I find his style to be the epitome of what the sweet science is all about.

[The Guillotine]

@SaintDJT:
Dont get me wrong, some fighters are also exciting to watch .. i.e the pacman. i understand what your saying about intensity. One of the best fights ive watched is Gatti VS Ward I. That intensity strikes my heart too. I think there are different levels to what people want to feel from a boxing match.

I really admire all boxers. The ones that i enjoy watching are the ones who make me go "wow" with their boxing skills and feats inside the ring due to cleverness and cunningness and knowledge of the game. Its one reason i really want to watch fights of Sam langford and Harry Greb, two guys who fought and defeated guys who were heavyweights and these guys were middle weights at best if i remember correctly.

Id wonder just what in the world are they doing in order to gain leverage over their opponents and how they are sub duing them. With boxing every step counts. It really is like chess. I prefer a skilled technician over physicallity, up to a certain point of all. Boxing implements all the elements and needs them all, i feel imo.

I like to see creativity too and effective use of style , flair and boxing technique and how one overcomes his opponent in the ring and by what means.

I have friends who are really annoying when it comes to boxing. they are hard core nut huggers of certain boxers so their passion gets in the way of their thinking.

And a lot of boxing fans are actually fans of BIG FIGHTS and not BOXING. They will watch the odd fight that is the current hype media wise.
A fan of boxing loves the sport and watchs as much as they can. Thats the difference.

But yeh, some people enjoy that intensity. Depends how they percieve the sport. I really do think everyone should box or get inside the ring even if its sparring at your local gym. It helps put thinks into a little more perspective when one realizes how different it is when ur in there and it surely helps increasing the awareness of watching boxing!
!!!!!

OK, it doesnt seem like you people understand me.

Let's examine this, what if there was a guy faster and more techinically superior than Mayweather. He would outpoint him and decisively win the match. If that person ONLY relied on his God given speed and technical skills to win the match, I would have respect for his talents, but in no way would that have produced the enamour that has made me love boxing in the first place.

[i_am_a_champ]

Don't think you have a case for questioning his heart and soul either, he's been in a few grueling fights that he's given nothing less than 100%.

True. he broke his hand in the 6th round of the carlos hernandez fight, carried on fighting. I think the demarcus corley fight where people say he got hit alot was actually due to floyd wanting to stand toe to toe with corely and trade. In the later rounds floyd seemed to be getting off on the fact that he was getting hit and trading. I think he urged corley on ( cant remember the round ) by saying something like "come on lets just fight!"

[i_am_a_champ]

OK, it doesnt seem like you people understand me.

Let's examine this, what if there was a guy faster and more techinically superior than Mayweather. He would outpoint him and decisively win the match. If that person ONLY relied on his God given speed and technical skills to win the match, I would have respect for his talents, but in no way would that have produced the enamour that has made me love boxing in the first place.

I believe you admire grit, warrior spirit and passionate / emotive boxers/boxing fights?

[Doctor_Tenma]

I personally love watching him box. I find his style beautiful to see.

What annoys me about him is his inactivity and not seeing some of the most interesting fights materialize.

Couldn't have said it better, I'm ashamed to say that...at times I didn't care who he faced as long as he was active. Guys like B-Hop, Whitaker, Floyd Mayweather, I can never get tired of watching those guys fight.

[_original_]

You don't like Floyd, big ****ing deal! Who cares who you like or don't, get off your high hoarse bro.