Does anyone think a good jab would work floyd?

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  • Eaner0919
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    #21
    Originally posted by Big Dunn
    Floyds reach is unique for a small guy which makes his jab even more effective.
    not only that but his footwork is on par with the best all time

    never out of position and rarely does he lean forward with his shots

    his jab you can see comes from great footwork in that he really steps into it

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    • Pugilistic™
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      #22
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      I dont see how a good jab alone can beat Floyd, considering Floyds got a good jab and probably better than your jab? So you jab floyd, and he jabs you as well, but only better.

      By all means jab, but then mix it up as well. The jab will have to set up other punches. Or when he jabs you will think how you can take advantage by detonating punches on his jaw in return for pitty pattying you with his jab.
      I agree with this also.

      Alot of fans ignore the fact that Floyd himself has a very good jab.

      He didn't use it enough a few years ago but from his Marquez and Mosley performances, it appears he's using it more again now.

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      • Carpe Diem
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        #23
        The only few good accurate jabbers who are at least near Floyd's weight division are, Cotto, Alvarez, and Khan. Those guys may throws and lands it more than Floyd, but they aren't as accurate as him with it.
        Last edited by Carpe Diem; 09-02-2011, 03:15 PM.

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        • brick wall
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          #24
          Originally posted by AKOO
          I agree with this guy.

          You need more than a good jab to beat Floyd though. He can do so many things in the ring so a good jab won't be enough.
          of course...besides a jab is a setup punch most of the time so it's never enough. what comes next to the good jab is the question.

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          • D4thincarnation
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            #25
            Can you imagine what Hearns would have done to Floyd, jabbed his head of before KOing him is 6.

            A one sided beat down from Tommy.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Eaner0919
              no because it would only be a matter of time before he starts timing it and the cadence at which it's thrown. All BS aside Floyd is a very smart fighter one of a handful who can adjust gameplans and techniques mid fight.

              In order to beat Floyd you have to force him to get out of his comfort zone. People think it's letting him lead but we saw what happens in Gatti and Marquez when he does lead. I always thought the gameplan to beat Floyd would be to never let him set or breath to constantly bring heat to him in differing patterns. That's why we saw guys like Jesus Chavez and JLC give him issues and yet superior boxers like Genaro and DLH get outboxed with little issue
              Hence why so many people give him heat for not fighting Margo. As slow as the dude was, he'd be a nightmare for someone like Floyd IMO.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Eaner0919
                no because it would only be a matter of time before he starts timing it and the cadence at which it's thrown. All BS aside Floyd is a very smart fighter one of a handful who can adjust gameplans and techniques mid fight.

                In order to beat Floyd you have to force him to get out of his comfort zone. People think it's letting him lead but we saw what happens in Gatti and Marquez when he does lead. I always thought the gameplan to beat Floyd would be to never let him set or breath to constantly bring heat to him in differing patterns. That's why we saw guys like Jesus Chavez and JLC give him issues and yet superior boxers like Genaro and DLH get outboxed with little issue
                Great post.

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                • BoxingGenius27
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                  #28
                  The only reason people think a jab will beat Floyd is because Roger Mayweather mentioned it. Had Roger not mentioned a jab, no one would be thinking about it. Do people really think Roger is going to tell people how to beat his nephew?

                  If you can remember, everyone use to think "pressure" would beat Floyd. Now it's a jab.

                  In my opinion, you have to throw punches when Floyd punches. That's really the only time Floyd allows any openings. Both Mosley and Hatton almost knocked Floyd down "while" Floyd was punching. See Floyd vs Hatton (Round 1) & Floyd vs Mosley (Round 2).

                  The jab won't hurt, but you need much more qualities to come close to beating Floyd.

                  Ortiz's down fall will be his lack of speed. The only reason Judah, Mosley, and Hatton were able to damage Floyd early was because of their speed. Although, Victor Ortiz is powerful, he lacks in speed. Unless Ortiz lands/hurts Mayweather early, he has absolutely no shot at victory.

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                  • hebi
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                    #29
                    I think this notion comes from the DLH fight. I COULD see a prime 147 DLH with his great jab and height advantage winning against Floyd using primarily a jab.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                      The only reason people think a jab will beat Floyd is because Roger Mayweather mentioned it. Had Roger not mentioned a jab, no one would be thinking about it. Do people really think Roger is going to tell people how to beat his nephew?

                      If you can remember, everyone use to think "pressure" would beat Floyd. Now it's a jab.

                      In my opinion, you have to throw punches when Floyd punches. That's really the only time Floyd allows any openings. Both Mosley and Hatton almost knocked Floyd down "while" Floyd was punching. See Floyd vs Hatton (Round 1) & Floyd vs Mosley (Round 2).

                      The jab won't hurt, but you need much more qualities to come close to beating Floyd.

                      Ortiz's down fall will be his lack of speed. The only reason Judah, Mosley, and Hatton were able to damage Floyd early was because of their speed. Although, Victor Ortiz is powerful, he lacks in speed. Unless Ortiz lands/hurts Mayweather early, he has absolutely no shot at victory.

                      There are many ways to beat Floyd, a great jab and pressure are just 2.

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